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I can say the same about alcohol

by NikolaeVarius 6y ago

throwaway2048 6y ago
Or heroin, or cocaine
- esperent 6y ago
  For me it's Kratom. It's helped me out of deep depression and also does more to help with migraines than any painkiller I've tried. I've been using it regularly for about 5 years now (with occasional cycles to reduce tolerance). So far, I have found no downsides except for the taste. When I stop taking it, there's one day of grumpiness which I would say it of similar strength to effect of stopping coffee after a regular habit. (EDIT because I'm not allowed to make a new comment for some reason, this is a reply to the comment below) Every person is different and you must take care of what you put in your body. I take kratom because it's a double whammy that reduces two problems - depression and migraine - to manageable levels, while having low potential for addiction. I have so far encountered no negative effects from taking it, only positives. However, I would prefer _not_ to take it. I would prefer _not_ to have depression and migraines and not to need any drugs to maintain a normal lifestyle. I work on this by maintaining a healthy diet, exercising regularly, sleeping well, meditation, and maybe I'll get there someday. In the meantime, kratom has increased my quality of life a lot over the past few years. This is not intended as a suggestion that anyone else should take it, just an anecdote about my experience. Regarding constipation - I have heard this before, but never personally experienced it. I mix each dose (<1tps) with a full cup of water, which probably helps.
  - tekla 6y ago
    I don't want to talk about it, but people should be wary of kratom, went to some bad places with it. Also at minimum constipation is a massive symptom
    - ineedasername 6y ago
      Yeah, it's not a wonder drug. There are serious risks. And in terms of treatment for something like depression, it should be regarded like any other depression treatment: it may work for some and be crap for others, and do awful things to some people. If you have access to quality professional mental health care, that should be your first stop, before self-educating.
BurningFrog 6y ago
My claim is that coffee makes you more industrious. Alcohol does not enhance performance for most professions.
- hnick 6y ago
  It's odd, I rarely drink but sometimes I will and alcohol motivates me to just bang out code or do something else that I've been putting off for a while. I've noticed this at night for personal projects but also after the rare work lunches. I'm not saying it's good quality code, but it definitely removes the barriers to starting that I often struggle to get over. And starting is the most important step of iterating, I can fix it up tomorrow.
  - JoshuaDavid 6y ago
    I've noticed the same thing sometimes. I particularly notice when there's a thing where there's an obvious flawed approach to the problem, but the flaws probably don't matter. Interestingly, I can replicate that mind-state even without alcoho. The same is true of a couple other states of mind that I originally arrived at though the use of mind altering substances (sadly it does not work for caffeine though).
    - hnick 6y ago
      > I particularly notice when there's a thing where there's an obvious flawed approach to the problem, but the flaws probably don't matter. Yeah absolutely. I often get hung up in architecture astronaut mode about whether this is the right solution, and entering that "who cares? make it work or nothing matters!" mindset is very liberating. I've been taking some herbal anxiety pills because a friend suggested them.I didn't expect much but it does seem to let me focus on the process and not the what-ifs when I need to.
  - majewsky 6y ago
    So you're still calibrating your Ballmer peak? :)

I can say the same about alcohol

throwaway2048 6y ago

Or heroin, or cocaine

esperent 6y ago
For me it's Kratom. It's helped me out of deep depression and also does more to help with migraines than any painkiller I've tried. I've been using it regularly for about 5 years now (with occasional cycles to reduce tolerance). So far, I have found no downsides except for the taste. When I stop taking it, there's one day of grumpiness which I would say it of similar strength to effect of stopping coffee after a regular habit. (EDIT because I'm not allowed to make a new comment for some reason, this is a reply to the comment below) Every person is different and you must take care of what you put in your body. I take kratom because it's a double whammy that reduces two problems - depression and migraine - to manageable levels, while having low potential for addiction. I have so far encountered no negative effects from taking it, only positives. However, I would prefer _not_ to take it. I would prefer _not_ to have depression and migraines and not to need any drugs to maintain a normal lifestyle. I work on this by maintaining a healthy diet, exercising regularly, sleeping well, meditation, and maybe I'll get there someday. In the meantime, kratom has increased my quality of life a lot over the past few years. This is not intended as a suggestion that anyone else should take it, just an anecdote about my experience. Regarding constipation - I have heard this before, but never personally experienced it. I mix each dose (<1tps) with a full cup of water, which probably helps.
- tekla 6y ago
  I don't want to talk about it, but people should be wary of kratom, went to some bad places with it. Also at minimum constipation is a massive symptom
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    Yeah, it's not a wonder drug. There are serious risks. And in terms of treatment for something like depression, it should be regarded like any other depression treatment: it may work for some and be crap for others, and do awful things to some people. If you have access to quality professional mental health care, that should be your first stop, before self-educating.

BurningFrog 6y ago

My claim is that coffee makes you more industrious. Alcohol does not enhance performance for most professions.

hnick 6y ago
It's odd, I rarely drink but sometimes I will and alcohol motivates me to just bang out code or do something else that I've been putting off for a while. I've noticed this at night for personal projects but also after the rare work lunches. I'm not saying it's good quality code, but it definitely removes the barriers to starting that I often struggle to get over. And starting is the most important step of iterating, I can fix it up tomorrow.
- JoshuaDavid 6y ago
  I've noticed the same thing sometimes. I particularly notice when there's a thing where there's an obvious flawed approach to the problem, but the flaws probably don't matter. Interestingly, I can replicate that mind-state even without alcoho. The same is true of a couple other states of mind that I originally arrived at though the use of mind altering substances (sadly it does not work for caffeine though).
  - hnick 6y ago
    > I particularly notice when there's a thing where there's an obvious flawed approach to the problem, but the flaws probably don't matter. Yeah absolutely. I often get hung up in architecture astronaut mode about whether this is the right solution, and entering that "who cares? make it work or nothing matters!" mindset is very liberating. I've been taking some herbal anxiety pills because a friend suggested them.I didn't expect much but it does seem to let me focus on the process and not the what-ifs when I need to.
- majewsky 6y ago
  So you're still calibrating your Ballmer peak? :)