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It seems pretty unwise to defraud your employer like that.

by jbroman 6y ago

dastx 6y ago
Why is it defrauding though? They want to lower your salary despite you having proven that you're worth that salary.
- jbroman 6y ago
  Because by doing this you have misrepresented the truth in order to extract more money from your employer than you agreed (presumably, in your employment contract). (As I commented elsewhere, whether you think paying by local cost of living is the right policy is valid to debate but isn't the point here.)
- harryh 6y ago
  Because it's lying. That's what fraud is. "But I had a good reason for lying!" is not a defense.
  - bryan_w 6y ago
    It's weird that you have to explain that lying is wrong to full grown adults
    - harryh 6y ago
      Yuuuup.
- hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
  Come on, this is just ridiculous. "Why can't I lie to my employer in a contractual agreement if they did something I don't like?" I mean, the vast, vast majority of FB employees can easily get jobs with other companies. If you don't like it, leave.
- booleandilemma 6y ago
  despite you having proven that you're worth that salary An employer never pays you what you're worth, they pay you the lowest possible salary they can get away with.
- stephenr 6y ago
  Did you prove you’re worth the salary or do they just have massively inflated salaries for everyone in a certain west coast US city because A bunch of huge technology companies failed to realise computers and the internet exist outside of said city and remote working is a very workable thing. I’m not saying they should drop your salary if you move, but I also don’t think a lot of people hired at typical SV rates are actually worth that much, so much as they can’t afford to live there if paid less.
- danielfoster 6y ago
  Proven that you are worth that salary in a given city. As tech companies realize they are no longer tied to SV they will also no longer have to pay the same high salaries to attract the large but overall still limited talent pool in this geographic area. For every SF developer there is probably a just as good developer in Boise or Belarus willing to do the job for much less. Why should a SF developer who moves there make more? People are worth a lot, but they become worth less monetarily as the talent pool grows in size.

It seems pretty unwise to defraud your employer like that.

dastx 6y ago

Why is it defrauding though? They want to lower your salary despite you having proven that you're worth that salary.

jbroman 6y ago
Because by doing this you have misrepresented the truth in order to extract more money from your employer than you agreed (presumably, in your employment contract). (As I commented elsewhere, whether you think paying by local cost of living is the right policy is valid to debate but isn't the point here.)
harryh 6y ago
Because it's lying. That's what fraud is. "But I had a good reason for lying!" is not a defense.
- bryan_w 6y ago
  It's weird that you have to explain that lying is wrong to full grown adults
  - harryh 6y ago
    Yuuuup.
hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
Come on, this is just ridiculous. "Why can't I lie to my employer in a contractual agreement if they did something I don't like?" I mean, the vast, vast majority of FB employees can easily get jobs with other companies. If you don't like it, leave.
booleandilemma 6y ago
despite you having proven that you're worth that salary An employer never pays you what you're worth, they pay you the lowest possible salary they can get away with.
stephenr 6y ago
Did you prove you’re worth the salary or do they just have massively inflated salaries for everyone in a certain west coast US city because A bunch of huge technology companies failed to realise computers and the internet exist outside of said city and remote working is a very workable thing. I’m not saying they should drop your salary if you move, but I also don’t think a lot of people hired at typical SV rates are actually worth that much, so much as they can’t afford to live there if paid less.
danielfoster 6y ago
Proven that you are worth that salary in a given city. As tech companies realize they are no longer tied to SV they will also no longer have to pay the same high salaries to attract the large but overall still limited talent pool in this geographic area. For every SF developer there is probably a just as good developer in Boise or Belarus willing to do the job for much less. Why should a SF developer who moves there make more? People are worth a lot, but they become worth less monetarily as the talent pool grows in size.