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You might care that you are paying $10 for $1 quality burger? But more I think people want their money to support the businesses that are making the food. Rest

You might care that you are paying $10 for $1 quality burger? But more I think people want their money to support the businesses that are making the food. Restaurants are very difficult businesses, and people that like them want to support them vs the VC backed startups.

matz1 6y ago
I care, so I judge the quality according to the money I paid to obtain it, in this case I judge it as $10 quality burger.
- mint2 6y ago
  With the extreme cost disparity in your example, it’s only Taking your example a tiny bit further to say if the restaurant was paid zero by the app but the app somehow got their food, you’d be be okay with it. It’s not much more extreme from what your comment said to say if you value a burger $10 it doesn’t matter if the $10 went to someone who involuntarily coerced the restaurant and $0 went to the restaurant. What is the name for workers who do work without pay? Most people have some sense of moral rightness in their supply chain when an injustice is visible. That is why the apps hide their exorbitant fees.
  - matz1 6y ago
    >if the restaurant was paid zero by the app but the app somehow got their food, you’d be be okay with it If I'm the customer: yes. If I'm the restaurant: no, I would not agree to give out food if I'm getting paid zero. > What is the name for workers who do work without pay? Same thing if I'm the worker, it doesn't matter if the pay is $10 - $9 deduction or $1 - $0 deduction, in both case it really is $1. I then decide whether it worth my effort to do it for $1.
    - grawprog 6y ago
      >If I'm the customer: yes Well of you enjoy that restaurant you shouldn't be ok with it, because with price margins like you describe, that restaurant's not going to exist for very long.
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      - matz1 6y ago
        I am specifically discussing about comparing net price, nothing to do with price margin though.
        mint2 6y ago
        Why are you limiting your consideration to such and artificial and limited scope? No one else is going to object if you consider whether a wallet vote is pretty blatantly encouraging and rewarding exploitive behavior. It’s very hard to pretend the relationship is not exploitative.
        matz1 6y ago
        The price of the item is real for me. Limited scope? Sure, its for my benefit and my convinience.
      - dwild 6y ago
        > Well of you enjoy that restaurant you shouldn't be ok with it, because with price margins like you describe, that restaurant's not going to exist for very long. That's only true in a vacuum though. There's so much more variable that makes it absurd to happen, except if we live in some kind of tv show. Let say Uber eat charge too much and it kill their customer, will they keep doing it? Why would they? Theses customers are the one bringiner them this cash. Why would no competitor see that and decide to charge 1% less? That would be absurd for the restaurant not to consider that one instead. That strategy would be incredibly easy to apply locally too. Let's not forget that restaurant still can have their own delivery drivers too, like in the article we are talking about right now. That also means that you will have to pay for the marketing too that the delivery service provided for you beforehands... but that's normal business.

matz1 6y ago

I care, so I judge the quality according to the money I paid to obtain it, in this case I judge it as $10 quality burger.

mint2 6y ago
With the extreme cost disparity in your example, it’s only Taking your example a tiny bit further to say if the restaurant was paid zero by the app but the app somehow got their food, you’d be be okay with it. It’s not much more extreme from what your comment said to say if you value a burger $10 it doesn’t matter if the $10 went to someone who involuntarily coerced the restaurant and $0 went to the restaurant. What is the name for workers who do work without pay? Most people have some sense of moral rightness in their supply chain when an injustice is visible. That is why the apps hide their exorbitant fees.
- matz1 6y ago
  >if the restaurant was paid zero by the app but the app somehow got their food, you’d be be okay with it If I'm the customer: yes. If I'm the restaurant: no, I would not agree to give out food if I'm getting paid zero. > What is the name for workers who do work without pay? Same thing if I'm the worker, it doesn't matter if the pay is $10 - $9 deduction or $1 - $0 deduction, in both case it really is $1. I then decide whether it worth my effort to do it for $1.
  - grawprog 6y ago
    >If I'm the customer: yes Well of you enjoy that restaurant you shouldn't be ok with it, because with price margins like you describe, that restaurant's not going to exist for very long.
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    - matz1 6y ago
      I am specifically discussing about comparing net price, nothing to do with price margin though.
      - mint2 6y ago
        Why are you limiting your consideration to such and artificial and limited scope? No one else is going to object if you consider whether a wallet vote is pretty blatantly encouraging and rewarding exploitive behavior. It’s very hard to pretend the relationship is not exploitative.
        matz1 6y ago
        The price of the item is real for me. Limited scope? Sure, its for my benefit and my convinience.
    - dwild 6y ago
      > Well of you enjoy that restaurant you shouldn't be ok with it, because with price margins like you describe, that restaurant's not going to exist for very long. That's only true in a vacuum though. There's so much more variable that makes it absurd to happen, except if we live in some kind of tv show. Let say Uber eat charge too much and it kill their customer, will they keep doing it? Why would they? Theses customers are the one bringiner them this cash. Why would no competitor see that and decide to charge 1% less? That would be absurd for the restaurant not to consider that one instead. That strategy would be incredibly easy to apply locally too. Let's not forget that restaurant still can have their own delivery drivers too, like in the article we are talking about right now. That also means that you will have to pay for the marketing too that the delivery service provided for you beforehands... but that's normal business.