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Just ran the configurator, the price is _really_ good IMO. With memory maxed out (32GB), a 1TB SSD and WiFi 6 it's only 1099 EUR. Too bad it's not offered with

by LeonM 6y ago

Just ran the configurator, the price is _really_ good IMO. With memory maxed out (32GB), a 1TB SSD and WiFi 6 it's only 1099 EUR. Too bad it's not offered with a 4K display. And personally I would have preferred a TB3 port over all the I/O that this machine has build-in. When on-the-go I'm using wireless connectivity anyway, and at my desk I like to use a TB3 dock with PD as an all-in-one docking solution. Not supporting charging trough USB-PD is also missed opportunity.

Already__Taken 6y ago
Weird pricing trade offs though in there. 250 to 500GB m.2 drive is +25, adding a second 250GB drive is +95 Upping the wifi to 6 is only +10? Why bother even offering that. I don't mind the display but not being USB-C Charging is really disappointing.
- Sebb767 6y ago
  > 250 to 500GB m.2 drive is +25, adding a second 250GB drive is +95 That's because the base price includes the 250GB SSD. You can remove it for a 75 Euro price reduction. The second SSD is also a bit more expensive since there's no M.2/SATA option on the second slot. If you select the 970 EVO Plus (250GB) you'll have to add 20 Euro, which matches the price in the second slot.
  - benibela 6y ago
    Perhaps it would be cheaper to buy the SSD separately and add it yourself?
- zamadatix 6y ago
  They've got a pile of 3168s they want to get rid of or acquired for free/near free. There is no reason to buy that card new in 2020, it wasn't even a good option for the price when it launched in 2016. +10 is a touch over the full per unit price on bulk orders of the ax200 (I just bought a couple hundred recently) so they are saying they save nothing by keeping a 3168 on hand. WiFi cards have this happen a lot since they are one of the few things that are still modular in laptops and most people wouldn't even notice (well in this case they might since the 3168 is only 1x1 and the ax200 is 2x2). That being said if you're planning on running Linux do know for the ax200 you'll want to be on/backported from 5.4+ and grab the latest microcode or it could be a bumpy ride.
40four 6y ago
I agree, this seems like a great value. I’m in the market for a Linux first laptop, I will have to consider this company.
rz2k 6y ago
There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. Intel laptops also have twice as fast USB along with Thunderbolt 3. At 350 cd/m2 and 84% sRGB the relatively low resolution screen is also going to be darker with poor color reproduction. However, in addition to the CPU power, and a sane configuration being half the price, the weight looks really good. At 1.4 kg (3.1 lbs) it weighs like a 13" MacBook Pro rather than a 15 or 16 inch one. I've found the difference between 3 and 4 lbs surprisingly noticeable if frequently moving the computer or commuting with it.
- newacct583 6y ago
  > There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. The MBP is the world's premier laptop and more than twice as expensive. I'd certainly expect so!
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. Intel laptops also have twice as fast USB along with Thunderbolt 3. On the other hand, this has a builtin HDMI port, ethernet port and the capacity for internal expansion (unlike the Macbook), so the performance for external expansion is a lot less relevant. Who wants to carry around a bunch of overpriced dongles anyway? > At 350 cd/m2 and 84% sRGB the relatively low resolution screen is also going to be darker with poor color reproduction. I wish somebody would make laptops with high quality screens and low end everything else. Sometimes that's all you need. Plus, the low end processors often have the best battery life.
  - rz2k 6y ago
    Sadly, the plain MacBook doesn't have a low end price. :) An upcoming ARM MacBook could be a great machine for a text editor, terminal, and browser, but I fear there will be new user limitations that block customizations like Karabiner and Hammerspoon that I would miss too much.
shadowpawn 6y ago
Decent Windows based machine prices out cheaper?
Awelton 6y ago
I thought I was very reasonably priced considering the 19%(!) tax is included.

by LeonM 6y ago

Already__Taken 6y ago

Weird pricing trade offs though in there. 250 to 500GB m.2 drive is +25, adding a second 250GB drive is +95 Upping the wifi to 6 is only +10? Why bother even offering that. I don't mind the display but not being USB-C Charging is really disappointing.

Sebb767 6y ago
> 250 to 500GB m.2 drive is +25, adding a second 250GB drive is +95 That's because the base price includes the 250GB SSD. You can remove it for a 75 Euro price reduction. The second SSD is also a bit more expensive since there's no M.2/SATA option on the second slot. If you select the 970 EVO Plus (250GB) you'll have to add 20 Euro, which matches the price in the second slot.
- benibela 6y ago
  Perhaps it would be cheaper to buy the SSD separately and add it yourself?
zamadatix 6y ago
They've got a pile of 3168s they want to get rid of or acquired for free/near free. There is no reason to buy that card new in 2020, it wasn't even a good option for the price when it launched in 2016. +10 is a touch over the full per unit price on bulk orders of the ax200 (I just bought a couple hundred recently) so they are saying they save nothing by keeping a 3168 on hand. WiFi cards have this happen a lot since they are one of the few things that are still modular in laptops and most people wouldn't even notice (well in this case they might since the 3168 is only 1x1 and the ax200 is 2x2). That being said if you're planning on running Linux do know for the ax200 you'll want to be on/backported from 5.4+ and grab the latest microcode or it could be a bumpy ride.

40four 6y ago

I agree, this seems like a great value. I’m in the market for a Linux first laptop, I will have to consider this company.

rz2k 6y ago

There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. Intel laptops also have twice as fast USB along with Thunderbolt 3. At 350 cd/m2 and 84% sRGB the relatively low resolution screen is also going to be darker with poor color reproduction. However, in addition to the CPU power, and a sane configuration being half the price, the weight looks really good. At 1.4 kg (3.1 lbs) it weighs like a 13" MacBook Pro rather than a 15 or 16 inch one. I've found the difference between 3 and 4 lbs surprisingly noticeable if frequently moving the computer or commuting with it.

newacct583 6y ago
> There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. The MBP is the world's premier laptop and more than twice as expensive. I'd certainly expect so!
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> There are tradeoffs with this machine compared to a Macbook Pro. Intel laptops also have twice as fast USB along with Thunderbolt 3. On the other hand, this has a builtin HDMI port, ethernet port and the capacity for internal expansion (unlike the Macbook), so the performance for external expansion is a lot less relevant. Who wants to carry around a bunch of overpriced dongles anyway? > At 350 cd/m2 and 84% sRGB the relatively low resolution screen is also going to be darker with poor color reproduction. I wish somebody would make laptops with high quality screens and low end everything else. Sometimes that's all you need. Plus, the low end processors often have the best battery life.
- rz2k 6y ago
  Sadly, the plain MacBook doesn't have a low end price. :) An upcoming ARM MacBook could be a great machine for a text editor, terminal, and browser, but I fear there will be new user limitations that block customizations like Karabiner and Hammerspoon that I would miss too much.

shadowpawn 6y ago

Decent Windows based machine prices out cheaper?

Awelton 6y ago

I thought I was very reasonably priced considering the 19%(!) tax is included.