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A lot of young people (including me) live alone, making the isolation much more serious. People also aren't built for extended isolation from other humans, it's

A lot of young people (including me) live alone, making the isolation much more serious. People also aren't built for extended isolation from other humans, it's some kind of base instinct to be social. I got lucky because I escaped back to my family home before the lockdowns, but not everyone could've done that.

zarkov99 6y ago
Sure, I agree that for a few the lock down is genuinely tough. Surely for a few others its an improvement over their previous circumstances. For the majority however, specially those that can actually afford VR, its nothing but an inconvenience, maybe a slight bump in anxiety brought about by a glimpse of chaos. Its that lack of perspective I have a problem with. There are people that actually are in danger, that have to go to work, because they are "essential", though apparently not essential enough to get paid, and the least the rest of us can do is stop bitching about being locked in a safe, comfortable place.
- cameronbrown 6y ago
  "A few"? As a society, we're living in a crisis of loneliness.[0] Lack of social contact is mentally and physically devastating for the human psyche, and this is evident in the current suicide rate[1][2]. One could argue that this trade-off is worth it[3], because more people will die from the virus than suicide, but this is predicated on our Coronavirus modelling being accurate. This is still in dispute[4][5], and arguable either way. For many, being locked in is not "safe & comfortable"[6][7][8][9]. The so called people who are "bitching" are at great risk of suicide. From a certain PoV, essential workers are just in a different form of danger. At the end of the day, we're making a conscious trade-off of some lives for other lives here - everybody has the right to be upset. So no, I think you should "stop bitching" about the plight of others (there are complainers on both sides). Just because you have it good, the majority of people _do not_. Have a little empathy. [0]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/07/loneliness-social-connect-local-communities https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/07/loneli... (this applies more broadly than the UK) [1]https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1286065/lockdown-end-coronavirus-california-donald-trump-gavin-newsom-suicide-death-toll https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1286065/lockdown-end-co... [2]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/ [3]https://theconversation.com/the-calculus-of-death-shows-the-covid-lock-down-is-clearly-worth-the-cost-137716 https://theconversation.com/the-calculus-of-death-shows-the-... [4]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/neil-fergusons-imperial-model-could-devastating-software-mistake/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/neil-fergu... [5]https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-real-scandal-is-why-did-anyone-ever-listen-to-this-guy/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-rea... [6]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52433520 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52433520 [7]https://www.ft.com/content/e5061be6-2978-4c0b-aa68-f372a2526826 https://www.ft.com/content/e5061be6-2978-4c0b-aa68-f372a2526... [8]https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/26/britains-lockdown-diaries-expose-gulf-in-wellbeing-between-rich-and-poor https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/26/britains-loc... [9]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/covid-19-deaths-twice-as-high-in-poorest-areas-in-england-and-wales https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/covid-19-death...

zarkov99 6y ago

Sure, I agree that for a few the lock down is genuinely tough. Surely for a few others its an improvement over their previous circumstances. For the majority however, specially those that can actually afford VR, its nothing but an inconvenience, maybe a slight bump in anxiety brought about by a glimpse of chaos. Its that lack of perspective I have a problem with. There are people that actually are in danger, that have to go to work, because they are "essential", though apparently not essential enough to get paid, and the least the rest of us can do is stop bitching about being locked in a safe, comfortable place.

cameronbrown 6y ago
"A few"? As a society, we're living in a crisis of loneliness.[0] Lack of social contact is mentally and physically devastating for the human psyche, and this is evident in the current suicide rate[1][2]. One could argue that this trade-off is worth it[3], because more people will die from the virus than suicide, but this is predicated on our Coronavirus modelling being accurate. This is still in dispute[4][5], and arguable either way. For many, being locked in is not "safe & comfortable"[6][7][8][9]. The so called people who are "bitching" are at great risk of suicide. From a certain PoV, essential workers are just in a different form of danger. At the end of the day, we're making a conscious trade-off of some lives for other lives here - everybody has the right to be upset. So no, I think you should "stop bitching" about the plight of others (there are complainers on both sides). Just because you have it good, the majority of people _do not_. Have a little empathy. [0]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/07/loneliness-social-connect-local-communities https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/07/loneli... (this applies more broadly than the UK) [1]https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1286065/lockdown-end-coronavirus-california-donald-trump-gavin-newsom-suicide-death-toll https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1286065/lockdown-end-co... [2]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/ [3]https://theconversation.com/the-calculus-of-death-shows-the-covid-lock-down-is-clearly-worth-the-cost-137716 https://theconversation.com/the-calculus-of-death-shows-the-... [4]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/neil-fergusons-imperial-model-could-devastating-software-mistake/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/neil-fergu... [5]https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-real-scandal-is-why-did-anyone-ever-listen-to-this-guy/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-rea... [6]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52433520 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52433520 [7]https://www.ft.com/content/e5061be6-2978-4c0b-aa68-f372a2526826 https://www.ft.com/content/e5061be6-2978-4c0b-aa68-f372a2526... [8]https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/26/britains-lockdown-diaries-expose-gulf-in-wellbeing-between-rich-and-poor https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/26/britains-loc... [9]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/covid-19-deaths-twice-as-high-in-poorest-areas-in-england-and-wales https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/covid-19-death...