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Nice, except for the screen. FullHD is the new "barely adequate". But at least it is non-glare, not "bathroom-mirror" finish. The latter would be unacceptable d

by corty 6y ago

Nice, except for the screen. FullHD is the new "barely adequate". But at least it is non-glare, not "bathroom-mirror" finish. The latter would be unacceptable due to workplace regulations here.

mamon 6y ago
In my country workplace regulations forbid working on laptop screen anyway - if a worker is supposed to work on computer for more than, iirc, 4 hours a day, then external screen is mandatory. And it's not really about a screen size, it's more that you are not supposed to be looking down, so the external screen top border must be at the same height as your eyes.
thinkloop 6y ago
What regulations advise screen reflectivity?
- helldritch 6y ago
  Not the OP, but one example (UK specific but guided by European law) is The health and safety (display screen equipment) regulations 1992, as amended by the health and safety (miscellaneous amendments) regulations 2002 [1] Under the heading Requirements for Work Stations (Reg 3. and schedule): 24 Regulation 3 requires workstations to meet the requirements of the Schedule, (subject to the proviso outlined below), which sets out minimum requirements for the display screen, keyboard, desk, chair, work environment (including working space, lighting, reflection and glare, noise, heat and humidity), task requirements and software. Requirements are set out in fairly general terms, eg "The seat shall be adjustable in height". The Schedule does not contain technical detail. Paragraph 32 states that anti-glare filters must be provided by workplaces which use DSE (display screen equipment) which are capable of projecting glare. [1] https://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/ocs/200-299/oc202_1.htm https://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/ocs/200-299/oc202_1.h...
- corty 6y ago
  helldritch already answered for the UK. In Germany there is the Arbeitsstättenverordnung, the appendix requires non-reflective desktop and laptop screens (6.3 (2) 3 and 6.4 (2) 1): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/arbst_ttv_2004/anhang.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/arbst_ttv_2004/anhang.htm... There is also a similar European Union directive, however, that does not apply to laptops if they are used only infrequently (annex 1b): https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:01990L0270-20070627 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:01... So while the rest of the world might differ, in the EU non-glare screens are usually required if you intend to sell to business customers.
wegs 6y ago
That's the make-or-break for me. Without 4k, I'll move along. With 4k, it'd probably be my next laptop. With 4k and touch or pen, it'd definitely be my next laptop.

by corty 6y ago

Nice, except for the screen. FullHD is the new "barely adequate". But at least it is non-glare, not "bathroom-mirror" finish. The latter would be unacceptable due to workplace regulations here.

mamon 6y ago

In my country workplace regulations forbid working on laptop screen anyway - if a worker is supposed to work on computer for more than, iirc, 4 hours a day, then external screen is mandatory. And it's not really about a screen size, it's more that you are not supposed to be looking down, so the external screen top border must be at the same height as your eyes.

thinkloop 6y ago

What regulations advise screen reflectivity?

helldritch 6y ago
Not the OP, but one example (UK specific but guided by European law) is The health and safety (display screen equipment) regulations 1992, as amended by the health and safety (miscellaneous amendments) regulations 2002 [1] Under the heading Requirements for Work Stations (Reg 3. and schedule): 24 Regulation 3 requires workstations to meet the requirements of the Schedule, (subject to the proviso outlined below), which sets out minimum requirements for the display screen, keyboard, desk, chair, work environment (including working space, lighting, reflection and glare, noise, heat and humidity), task requirements and software. Requirements are set out in fairly general terms, eg "The seat shall be adjustable in height". The Schedule does not contain technical detail. Paragraph 32 states that anti-glare filters must be provided by workplaces which use DSE (display screen equipment) which are capable of projecting glare. [1] https://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/ocs/200-299/oc202_1.htm https://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/ocs/200-299/oc202_1.h...
corty 6y ago
helldritch already answered for the UK. In Germany there is the Arbeitsstättenverordnung, the appendix requires non-reflective desktop and laptop screens (6.3 (2) 3 and 6.4 (2) 1): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/arbst_ttv_2004/anhang.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/arbst_ttv_2004/anhang.htm... There is also a similar European Union directive, however, that does not apply to laptops if they are used only infrequently (annex 1b): https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:01990L0270-20070627 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:01... So while the rest of the world might differ, in the EU non-glare screens are usually required if you intend to sell to business customers.

wegs 6y ago

That's the make-or-break for me. Without 4k, I'll move along. With 4k, it'd probably be my next laptop. With 4k and touch or pen, it'd definitely be my next laptop.