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Reading the thread, including the parent post the OP omitted, it looks like they rewrote the background picker. And decided that this wasn't worth the time to r

by Jonnax 6y ago

Reading the thread, including the parent post the OP omitted, it looks like they rewrote the background picker. And decided that this wasn't worth the time to reimplement. Well it's not as if people are paying for GNOME. Is there something on the issue tracker to add it back? Rather than creating some drama or calling out a GNOME developer, why not see if you can implement the feature? The odds are they'd welcome the contribution. Edit: Looks like it's not part of the "design vision" of GNOME. However gotta say there seems to be a lot of hostility generated. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/717 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues... The ability to change the background is apparently still available via cli: $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri '' $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background primary-color '#123456'

torstenvl 6y ago
Wow... discussion locked by the same dev who made the initial call...
- olliej 6y ago
  So weird
- floatingatoll 6y ago
  I’m glad to see they locked it so rapidly once the pile-on began. I don’t agree with their position, but the comments over the past couple weeks have all the hallmarks of Internet mob behavior: “It’s been months since you made your decision and I’ve decided to stir up controversy about it again”. I’m not sure where this was posted about three weeks ago, but that led to the pile-on beginning here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/717#note_787127 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues... And now we’re here having a dramatic outrage over it too. It’s not a great decision, but linking to this Reddit post was far less effective than linking to a blog post about this controversy would have been. I wish we could have read a proper written story posted to HN about this, rather than being expected to sort through a haphazard pile of user comments without context. Is this only interesting because it’s disagreeable? Is the survey methodology the focus? Why did this matter to whoever posted it? Tell us a better story next time, OP.
pjmlp 6y ago
Yeah, that is really why one uses a desktop environment, more reasons to have to deal with the CLI. /s Sometimes I question myself how could I have been so much into Linux 20 years ago.
olliej 6y ago
Normal users don’t necessarily know how to use the commandline. Those that do almost certainly do not know the commands to bypass the UI. What you’re saying is no different from saying users should know what registry entries to change in windows. Saying “it’s free” is an argument to use paid software like windows and OS X because usable software is something you have to pay for. Seriously, if the project is not intended for developers using the “make the patch yourself” argument is absolutely unreasonable.
JungleGymSam 6y ago
> Rather than creating some drama or calling out a GNOME developer, why not see if you can implement the feature? That's not how it works anymore. If you don't give me the free thing in exactly the way _I_ want it, you are oppressing me and you should be destroyed.
type0 6y ago
On Linux using cli is the most user friendly way, so glad that GNOME sticks to that approach /s
jatone 6y ago
> why not see if you can implement the feature? honestly I've offered multiple times to implement features/fix bugs. they never respond. that argument doesn't hold weight anymore when dealing with gnome.
brmgb 6y ago
> Looks like it's not part of the "design vision" of GNOME. I personally think GNOME "design vision" jumped the shark a long time ago when they mandated enormous title bar wasting everyone a lot of space so it could be used with touch control, a feature asked by basically no one. Also apparently they still don't have a proper dock. Then again, it's their vision. They can do as they please. I just avoid using it as much as I can. Elementary is really nice. I don't mind the obvious OSX inspiration.

by Jonnax 6y ago

torstenvl 6y ago

Wow... discussion locked by the same dev who made the initial call...

olliej 6y ago
So weird
floatingatoll 6y ago
I’m glad to see they locked it so rapidly once the pile-on began. I don’t agree with their position, but the comments over the past couple weeks have all the hallmarks of Internet mob behavior: “It’s been months since you made your decision and I’ve decided to stir up controversy about it again”. I’m not sure where this was posted about three weeks ago, but that led to the pile-on beginning here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/717#note_787127 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues... And now we’re here having a dramatic outrage over it too. It’s not a great decision, but linking to this Reddit post was far less effective than linking to a blog post about this controversy would have been. I wish we could have read a proper written story posted to HN about this, rather than being expected to sort through a haphazard pile of user comments without context. Is this only interesting because it’s disagreeable? Is the survey methodology the focus? Why did this matter to whoever posted it? Tell us a better story next time, OP.

pjmlp 6y ago

Yeah, that is really why one uses a desktop environment, more reasons to have to deal with the CLI. /s Sometimes I question myself how could I have been so much into Linux 20 years ago.

olliej 6y ago

Normal users don’t necessarily know how to use the commandline. Those that do almost certainly do not know the commands to bypass the UI. What you’re saying is no different from saying users should know what registry entries to change in windows. Saying “it’s free” is an argument to use paid software like windows and OS X because usable software is something you have to pay for. Seriously, if the project is not intended for developers using the “make the patch yourself” argument is absolutely unreasonable.

JungleGymSam 6y ago

> Rather than creating some drama or calling out a GNOME developer, why not see if you can implement the feature? That's not how it works anymore. If you don't give me the free thing in exactly the way _I_ want it, you are oppressing me and you should be destroyed.

type0 6y ago

On Linux using cli is the most user friendly way, so glad that GNOME sticks to that approach /s

jatone 6y ago

> why not see if you can implement the feature? honestly I've offered multiple times to implement features/fix bugs. they never respond. that argument doesn't hold weight anymore when dealing with gnome.

brmgb 6y ago

> Looks like it's not part of the "design vision" of GNOME. I personally think GNOME "design vision" jumped the shark a long time ago when they mandated enormous title bar wasting everyone a lot of space so it could be used with touch control, a feature asked by basically no one. Also apparently they still don't have a proper dock. Then again, it's their vision. They can do as they please. I just avoid using it as much as I can. Elementary is really nice. I don't mind the obvious OSX inspiration.