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Although I sympathize, this is one issue, not three. And hardly anything unique to Apple.

lisper 6y ago
It seems pretty unique to Apple in my experience. I have an ancient Android tablet. I don't even know how old the OS is on it. It never nags me to upgrade. My Linux boxes never nag me to upgrade. When I do upgrade, things mostly keep working, and if they don't it's pretty easy to roll things back.
- LeoPanthera 6y ago
  Android never getting updates is not a feature!
  - lisper 6y ago
    I much prefer no updates over broken updates, especially when they are forced on me. Stable bugs are better than a never ending stream of new ones.
- aflag 6y ago
  How do you roll back an upgrade in android and whatever linux distribution you're using?
  - lisper 6y ago
    I've never had to roll back a Linux upgrade but if I had to I could always restore from a backup. You can sometimes do that with MacOS, but some MacOS upgrades come with firmware upgrades which are one-way and prevent earlier versions from booting. And all iOS upgrades are one-way. I don't know about Android. I only have one Android device. It is so old I don't even remember how old it is and I've only ever upgraded it once. It still works like a charm for all the things I need it to do.
  - sk5t 6y ago
    Perhaps LVM snapshots are an option for Linux rollback?
rayiner 6y ago
It’s not unique to Apple, but that didn’t used to be the case. I’ve used a Mac for almost 15 years. My previous Macs had issues, no doubt. Got bit by the peeling anti glare issue on my 2013 MBP 15” (after 5+ years of heavy use). But I’ve had maybe two kernel panics in all that time. With my new 16”, I’ve had half a dozen in two weeks. Waking from sleep used to be the basic functionality that “just worked” on Apple machines and where Windows and Linux laptops struggled. That was the benefit you got in return for spending extra on closed hardware platform.

It seems pretty unique to Apple in my experience. I have an ancient Android tablet. I don't even know how old the OS is on it. It never nags me to upgrade. My Linux boxes never nag me to upgrade. When I do upgrade, things mostly keep working, and if they don't it's pretty easy to roll things back.

LeoPanthera 6y ago
Android never getting updates is not a feature!
- lisper 6y ago
  I much prefer no updates over broken updates, especially when they are forced on me. Stable bugs are better than a never ending stream of new ones.
aflag 6y ago
How do you roll back an upgrade in android and whatever linux distribution you're using?
- lisper 6y ago
  I've never had to roll back a Linux upgrade but if I had to I could always restore from a backup. You can sometimes do that with MacOS, but some MacOS upgrades come with firmware upgrades which are one-way and prevent earlier versions from booting. And all iOS upgrades are one-way. I don't know about Android. I only have one Android device. It is so old I don't even remember how old it is and I've only ever upgraded it once. It still works like a charm for all the things I need it to do.
- sk5t 6y ago
  Perhaps LVM snapshots are an option for Linux rollback?

rayiner 6y ago

It’s not unique to Apple, but that didn’t used to be the case. I’ve used a Mac for almost 15 years. My previous Macs had issues, no doubt. Got bit by the peeling anti glare issue on my 2013 MBP 15” (after 5+ years of heavy use). But I’ve had maybe two kernel panics in all that time. With my new 16”, I’ve had half a dozen in two weeks. Waking from sleep used to be the basic functionality that “just worked” on Apple machines and where Windows and Linux laptops struggled. That was the benefit you got in return for spending extra on closed hardware platform.