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Oh, Jepsen and MongoDB again? Somebody get the popcorn!

by arpa 6y ago

balfirevic 6y ago
Unfortunately, not an entertaining showdown - too one-sided.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Because MongoDB is web scale?
  - senko 6y ago
    Some readers might not be familiar with that particular meme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs IMHO it perfectly describes the hype-reality disconnect at the early days of MongoDB. Yeah it was that bad. Mongo has improved since, the hype has toned down and the NoSQL space is more crowded these days.
    - znpy 6y ago
      i remember diaspora chanting about using mongodb. then a year or two later they admitted that their data model mostly fitted the relational model, and that they spent a lot of time basically reimplementing relational integrity in application code, in ruby. yeah, diaspora has never been fast. I'm not sure they can blame it on mongodb though.
      - collyw 6y ago
        I remember the Mongo hype when it came out and I really couldn't understand it. You are just throwing away a lot of useful features of a relational database because "schemaless" and "big data". The majority of people using it were on single server setups.
    - collyw 6y ago
      The damage is done. I have to use this crap at work when we should be using an SQL database. We have been planning a migration since before I started a year and a half ago. I won't be surprised if we are still on Mongo in another year and a half.
      - karatestomp 6y ago
        Fantasy: "Don't use special database features (by which I mean, like, any features) and make sure our ORM supports a ton of different datastores because we might want to change to a different database at some point and don't want to be tied to this one." Reality: Three app rewrites later plus another application written talking to the same DB, and the database is still the same.
  - dathinab 6y ago
    Oh that brings back memories ;)
- arpa 6y ago
  I remember having immensely enjoyed the original "Call me maybe" analysis [https://aphyr.com/posts/284-jepsen-mongodb https://aphyr.com/posts/284-jepsen-mongodb]. Sometimes it's just fun to see someone beaten.

Oh, Jepsen and MongoDB again? Somebody get the popcorn!

by arpa 6y ago

Oh, Jepsen and MongoDB again? Somebody get the popcorn!

balfirevic 6y ago

Unfortunately, not an entertaining showdown - too one-sided.

saagarjha 6y ago
Because MongoDB is web scale?
- senko 6y ago
  Some readers might not be familiar with that particular meme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs IMHO it perfectly describes the hype-reality disconnect at the early days of MongoDB. Yeah it was that bad. Mongo has improved since, the hype has toned down and the NoSQL space is more crowded these days.
  - znpy 6y ago
    i remember diaspora chanting about using mongodb. then a year or two later they admitted that their data model mostly fitted the relational model, and that they spent a lot of time basically reimplementing relational integrity in application code, in ruby. yeah, diaspora has never been fast. I'm not sure they can blame it on mongodb though.
    - collyw 6y ago
      I remember the Mongo hype when it came out and I really couldn't understand it. You are just throwing away a lot of useful features of a relational database because "schemaless" and "big data". The majority of people using it were on single server setups.
  - collyw 6y ago
    The damage is done. I have to use this crap at work when we should be using an SQL database. We have been planning a migration since before I started a year and a half ago. I won't be surprised if we are still on Mongo in another year and a half.
    - karatestomp 6y ago
      Fantasy: "Don't use special database features (by which I mean, like, any features) and make sure our ORM supports a ton of different datastores because we might want to change to a different database at some point and don't want to be tied to this one." Reality: Three app rewrites later plus another application written talking to the same DB, and the database is still the same.
- dathinab 6y ago
  Oh that brings back memories ;)
arpa 6y ago
I remember having immensely enjoyed the original "Call me maybe" analysis [https://aphyr.com/posts/284-jepsen-mongodb https://aphyr.com/posts/284-jepsen-mongodb]. Sometimes it's just fun to see someone beaten.