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You're quite right. Thanks for pointing it out. Upvoted. OK, here's what he said "but I find “deepthroat” as utterly disgusting". There's no space for the fac
by throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
You're quite right. Thanks for pointing it out. Upvoted.
OK, here's what he said "but I find “deepthroat” as utterly disgusting".
There's no space for the fact that some women like that, or that even if they don't, adult film workers are doing a paid job. Not all oral sex involves choking or apparently being forced. But that's a blanket condemnation based on him being "disgusted" and ignoring the nonsexual violence in mainstream media.
He goes on "I really dont know what the solution can be for this other than curating what types of videos they could watch"
So back to curating sex videos but ignoring extreme graphic nonsexual violence?
- onemoresoop 6y agoThis discussion doesnt exclude violence but we are focusing on the topic at hand. Second, I dont know if you notice but people copy any type of behaviour that is seen more, the type of thing becomes normalized, and as an example was the deepthroat that women can’t possibly enjoy, but do it anyway because it somehow becomes expected of them to do so, some even start enjoying the act even though it is not pleasant, it’s a coping mechanism... Violence on TV is obviously affecting our society for sure, and violence suffered from the same capitalistic fault to maximize profit, violence initially sold well so it produced exponentially more until the last dime could be extracted out of it. If no financial incentive is behind any of these “memes” then maybe the better ones become normalized and the effects on society are less nocive. Speaking broadly ofc.
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago> people copy any type of behaviour that is seen more, the type of thing becomes normalized Yeah. Like extraordinary levels of violence on TV that the audience becomes accustomed to it and simply don't see it any more whereas porn... > as an example was the deepthroat that women can’t possibly enjoy Wut really? Hint: women are people and some like different things, including that, unforced. You've really never met...? This smacks of the old view that women couldn't possibly enjoy sex and it was forced upon them unwillingly by those horrid beastly men. In you penultimate sentence you appear to be accepting media violence as a given. So fight back. Your last sentence I cannot understand.
- onemoresoop 6y agoYou seem to not want to understand on purpose and keep on telling me I take violence on TV for granted. I am not, I told you already, we’re talking about porn. Women feel lesser if they do not perform certain things that are in fashion, some kind of peer pressure. Who sets that fashion? Who is sick to want a women choke and gag on a man’s penis? You enjoy vomit? I dont think it has a place in healthy sexuality. And let me explain what I mean in the last paragraph of my previous comment: the extreme commercialization typical of capitalism is responsible for amplifying these memes, normalizing new things that are degrading for some and hence exploitative in nature. What are you fighting back about? Are you just a contrarian?
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago> Women feel... I do not wish to continue this. Congratulations on successfully weirding me out with your interpretation of oral sex.
- onemoresoop 6y agoYou’re the deepthroat defender, I don’t know who’s weirder. I continued this out of politeness by the way, I don’t find you very worthy of conversation, I just thought I would open an idiot’s eyes
- alain_gilbert 6y agoI'm curious what's your opinion on "dudes" that are doing deepthroat ? Are they also forced to do it ?! (or maybe they genuinely enjoy it)