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I'm sending right now at home 7TB from my server to my NAS and it's taking aaages over my internal 1Gb/s ethernet network. Am I right thinking that there are (

I'm sending right now at home 7TB from my server to my NAS and it's taking aaages over my internal 1Gb/s ethernet network. Am I right thinking that there are (still) no SOHO network switches that can handle faster speeds (at least 2Gb/s) that don't have active fans & don't get hot and that aren't super-expensive? The last time I checked, about 1 year ago, I didn't manage to find anything.

jlgaddis 6y ago
I've not used one and can't speak to their quality but: > The CRS305 is a compact yet very powerful switch, featuring four SFP+ ports, for up to 10 Gbit per port. The device has a 1 Gbit copper ethernet port for management access and two DC jacks for power redundancy. The device is a very sleek and compact metallic case without any fans, for silent operation. [0] > Suggested price $149.00 --- [0]: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
- zepearl 6y ago
  Thank you - looks interesting, but they don't write in the specs if it has an active fan or not, right? (e.g. I see in the pics that this random model has fans https://mikrotik.com/product/crs328_4c_20s_4s_rm#fndtn-downloads https://mikrotik.com/product/crs328_4c_20s_4s_rm#fndtn-downl... but they're not mentioned in the specs)
  - jlgaddis 6y ago
    I didn't look through the specs in detail so I'm not sure, but according to the copy I quoted above: > ... without any fans ...
wtallis 6y ago
Anything with multi-Gig or 10GbE is still quite expensive, unless you score a good deal on used enterprise gear that will definitely have screaming fans. There are a few switches that have mostly 1GbE ports and a few 10G ports and are fanless.
- myrandomcomment 6y ago
  Define expensive? 10GbaseT is not that much anymore. Also a number of vendors are supporting 2.5/5G speeds. Ubiquity has some reasonable kit. I am planning on dropping a 10G into my FreeNAS box and getting a thunderbolt 10G for my MacBook. The idea that the 10GT PHY can work in an adapter is pretty cool. Back in the day I worked at a startup that did one of the first 48x10GT switches and the PHY was 5 watts each x 48. Sorting the cooling was fun. As DC switch the noise was fine, but working with the prototypes at your desk or in the lab was quite loud.
  - wtallis 6y ago
    For switches of around 8 ports, 1GbE is about $2-3 per port. 10GbE over copper is about $70 per port, way higher than justified by the bandwidth increase alone. 10GbE is getting cheaper, sure, but it definitely isn't cheap yet. A 10GbE switch is still more expensive than all the equipment required for a 1GbE+WiFi home network.
    - zepearl 6y ago
      I just did some research: this switch doesn't seem bad, or am I overlooking something? https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/72944.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwtqj2BRBYEiwAqfzur7FInqXvr0G5hxrv9s3t9EAW14KSfbvouEUEYlBIKht34zvVaLXrCxoCGrkQAvD_BwE https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/72944.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwt... Fanless, 24 normal ports, 4 10GbE ports. What do they mean when they write "...with 4 10Gb SFP+ Uplinks"? Are they meant only to aggregate the traffic that comes from the 1GbE-ports or can they be used as well to exchange traffic between 4 servers, each one using 10GbE?
      - wtallis 6y ago
        That switch should be able to do regular switching between its four 10Gb ports, but first you need to buy SFP+ transceivers to plug into those ports. 10G Fiber transceivers start around $20 per port, but 10G transceivers with RJ-45 ports for ordinary twisted-pair copper cabling are $40-70 per port. So to get that switch equipped to actually do 10Gb switching over copper would drive the price per port over $100.
unholythree 6y ago
You could always just put a fast NIC in those two machines and just go point to point no switch involved.
- zepearl 6y ago
  Yeah, your right => I did take this into consideration in the past and now you woke up once more those thoughts. Still not optimal, as I have another PC/server involved which needs from time to time as well a lot of data (but more rarely).

jlgaddis 6y ago

I've not used one and can't speak to their quality but: > The CRS305 is a compact yet very powerful switch, featuring four SFP+ ports, for up to 10 Gbit per port. The device has a 1 Gbit copper ethernet port for management access and two DC jacks for power redundancy. The device is a very sleek and compact metallic case without any fans, for silent operation. [0] > Suggested price $149.00 --- [0]: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

zepearl 6y ago
Thank you - looks interesting, but they don't write in the specs if it has an active fan or not, right? (e.g. I see in the pics that this random model has fans https://mikrotik.com/product/crs328_4c_20s_4s_rm#fndtn-downloads https://mikrotik.com/product/crs328_4c_20s_4s_rm#fndtn-downl... but they're not mentioned in the specs)
- jlgaddis 6y ago
  I didn't look through the specs in detail so I'm not sure, but according to the copy I quoted above: > ... without any fans ...

wtallis 6y ago

Anything with multi-Gig or 10GbE is still quite expensive, unless you score a good deal on used enterprise gear that will definitely have screaming fans. There are a few switches that have mostly 1GbE ports and a few 10G ports and are fanless.

myrandomcomment 6y ago
Define expensive? 10GbaseT is not that much anymore. Also a number of vendors are supporting 2.5/5G speeds. Ubiquity has some reasonable kit. I am planning on dropping a 10G into my FreeNAS box and getting a thunderbolt 10G for my MacBook. The idea that the 10GT PHY can work in an adapter is pretty cool. Back in the day I worked at a startup that did one of the first 48x10GT switches and the PHY was 5 watts each x 48. Sorting the cooling was fun. As DC switch the noise was fine, but working with the prototypes at your desk or in the lab was quite loud.
- wtallis 6y ago
  For switches of around 8 ports, 1GbE is about $2-3 per port. 10GbE over copper is about $70 per port, way higher than justified by the bandwidth increase alone. 10GbE is getting cheaper, sure, but it definitely isn't cheap yet. A 10GbE switch is still more expensive than all the equipment required for a 1GbE+WiFi home network.
  - zepearl 6y ago
    I just did some research: this switch doesn't seem bad, or am I overlooking something? https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/72944.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwtqj2BRBYEiwAqfzur7FInqXvr0G5hxrv9s3t9EAW14KSfbvouEUEYlBIKht34zvVaLXrCxoCGrkQAvD_BwE https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/72944.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwt... Fanless, 24 normal ports, 4 10GbE ports. What do they mean when they write "...with 4 10Gb SFP+ Uplinks"? Are they meant only to aggregate the traffic that comes from the 1GbE-ports or can they be used as well to exchange traffic between 4 servers, each one using 10GbE?
    - wtallis 6y ago
      That switch should be able to do regular switching between its four 10Gb ports, but first you need to buy SFP+ transceivers to plug into those ports. 10G Fiber transceivers start around $20 per port, but 10G transceivers with RJ-45 ports for ordinary twisted-pair copper cabling are $40-70 per port. So to get that switch equipped to actually do 10Gb switching over copper would drive the price per port over $100.

unholythree 6y ago

You could always just put a fast NIC in those two machines and just go point to point no switch involved.

zepearl 6y ago
Yeah, your right => I did take this into consideration in the past and now you woke up once more those thoughts. Still not optimal, as I have another PC/server involved which needs from time to time as well a lot of data (but more rarely).