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Yes. Many years ago the internet allowed anyone to post their own websites, blogs, and comments on forums. Sites like Buzzfeed quickly blurted out "Oh noes, n

Yes. Many years ago the internet allowed anyone to post their own websites, blogs, and comments on forums. Sites like Buzzfeed quickly blurted out "Oh noes, now that anyone can publish, will the publishing industry survive?" As we all know, the publishing industry was forced to change (and because it didn't, it has suffered mightily) but proper news sources still hold their value. Just because I can make a porn video at home doesn't mean anyone will want to watch it. Pro models, proper lighting equipment, video editing equipment, and production knowledge all have value because the amateur stuff is mostly horrible. The rare gem will be noticed. There are a few citizen blogs out there that are very much worth watching. The crappo ones faded into obscurity. In the meantime, just like crappo publishing houses that refused to adapt and were pushed out of business, the pro porn industry will be forced to up its game. A good thing.

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
It's interesting that you use the publishing industry as a good example. I thought that news companies have been experiencing revenue declines for decades, leading to consolidation and increased partisanship in the big players. Personally, I don't pay attention to mainstream news anymore because I don't trust them and they make me anxious.
dgellow 6y ago
> Pro models, proper lighting equipment, video editing equipment, and production knowledge all have value because the amateur stuff is mostly horrible. Don't forget marketing. Professionals have money to spend on heavy marketing campaigns, amateur don't.
MiroF 6y ago
> proper news sources still hold their value. Are you kidding me? What happened to the news industry I would not describe as "survival" - there used to be ~200k journalists in the United States. Now there are ~20k
- dorkwood 6y ago
  What do the other 180k do now?
  - JetSpiegel 6y ago
    PR, probably.
  - MiroF 6y ago
    My parents, for instance, are both retired now - they quit earlier than they needed to.
bergstromm466 6y ago
> the amateur stuff is mostly horrible. > Pro models Have you seen the emerging signs that this ‘Pro model’ porn industry is a dangerous and predatory place that almost always puts the mental health of it’s (often very young) women‘s participants at risk? If you are into ‘Pro model’ stuff, have you read about ‘Pro model’ porn actors like James Deen, and other male porn stars, who are raping their female co-actors [1]? That the culture that has emerged is damaging many women’s health to the point that there is now a rise in female porn actor suicides (‘Pro model’ ones) [2]? It seems to me that this male porn actor behavior often comes out of a sick sense of entitlement and sexism, which I believe may be related to childhood neglect. As well as the pressures of America’s corporate culture which places a heavy focus on traditional gender roles - the simplest sign of this being visible in mostly non-existing paid parental leave policies for new parents, compared to say the Netherlands, or Denmark and Sweden. I believe this sick sense of entitlement can also be found in the people who watch these ‘Pro model’ movies, who I believe are fooled by the shiny veneer, and who remain unable to see the ruthless true nature of this industry that lies beneath it. I prefer user submitted homemade porn over ‘Pro model’ porn any day. Unfortunately even that is changing now too, as a lot of production costs now go into making ‘Pro model’ porn seem homemade. Have you seen the Rashida Jones porn industry documentary ‘Hot Girls Wanted‘ [3]? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-took-on-james-deen-and-broke-the-porn-industrys-silence https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-to... [2] https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/why-porn-stars-are-dying-at-an-alarming-rate/ https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/why-porn-stars-are-dying-at-an... [3] https://youtu.be/HNdw2uY9oHY https://youtu.be/HNdw2uY9oHY Edit: here’s another article relevant in this topic https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/09/28/youve-heard-of-rape-culture-but-have-you-heard-of-pedophile-culture/ https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/09/28/youve-heard-of-ra... and a quote from it: “In pedophile culture, I often catch men in public checking me out with eyes full of lust, until they see the hair on my legs — at which point, they resort to a theatrical display of disgust. I’ve eavesdropped on groups of college-age guys talking about how they won’t perform oral sex on a woman if her labia are too prominent. One man who had been pursuing sex with me for three years, suddenly changed his mind when I revealed that I do not, and will not, shave off my pubic hair. In other words, many men stop being attracted to me when reminded that I am a woman, and not a young girl. Surely all of these men, who have a “preference” for the aforementioned qualities in women, aren’t pedophiles by the strict definition of the word. But it seems that a high number of men, likely as a result of deep cultural conditioning, find many of the same things attractive in a woman that a pedophile would find attractive in a girlchild. Small labia, tight vaginas, intact hymens, baby-soft skin, hairless limbs and vulvas, eternal youthfulness, tiny frail bodies… As tumblr user reddressalert wrote, “how do we not recognize that this is essentially a description of a baby or a toddler?”“
sharemywin 6y ago
The problem is things like facebook and youtube that figure out/decide what you should see next.
rsynnott 6y ago
> Sites like Buzzfeed quickly blurted out "Oh noes, now that anyone can publish, will the publishing industry survive?" ... Wait, Buzzfeed, which was founded, as a website, in 2006, was concerned about the rise of blogs, personal websites, and forums, all of which were going into decline by 2006 with the coming of social media? Buzzfeed didn't even employ journalists til 2010 or so.
- MiroF 6y ago
  The parent comment is pretty obviously ill-informed for anyone who has any familiarity with/adjacency to the print journalism/publishing industry.

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago

It's interesting that you use the publishing industry as a good example. I thought that news companies have been experiencing revenue declines for decades, leading to consolidation and increased partisanship in the big players. Personally, I don't pay attention to mainstream news anymore because I don't trust them and they make me anxious.

dgellow 6y ago

> Pro models, proper lighting equipment, video editing equipment, and production knowledge all have value because the amateur stuff is mostly horrible. Don't forget marketing. Professionals have money to spend on heavy marketing campaigns, amateur don't.

MiroF 6y ago

> proper news sources still hold their value. Are you kidding me? What happened to the news industry I would not describe as "survival" - there used to be ~200k journalists in the United States. Now there are ~20k

dorkwood 6y ago
What do the other 180k do now?
- JetSpiegel 6y ago
  PR, probably.
- MiroF 6y ago
  My parents, for instance, are both retired now - they quit earlier than they needed to.

bergstromm466 6y ago

> the amateur stuff is mostly horrible. > Pro models Have you seen the emerging signs that this ‘Pro model’ porn industry is a dangerous and predatory place that almost always puts the mental health of it’s (often very young) women‘s participants at risk? If you are into ‘Pro model’ stuff, have you read about ‘Pro model’ porn actors like James Deen, and other male porn stars, who are raping their female co-actors [1]? That the culture that has emerged is damaging many women’s health to the point that there is now a rise in female porn actor suicides (‘Pro model’ ones) [2]? It seems to me that this male porn actor behavior often comes out of a sick sense of entitlement and sexism, which I believe may be related to childhood neglect. As well as the pressures of America’s corporate culture which places a heavy focus on traditional gender roles - the simplest sign of this being visible in mostly non-existing paid parental leave policies for new parents, compared to say the Netherlands, or Denmark and Sweden. I believe this sick sense of entitlement can also be found in the people who watch these ‘Pro model’ movies, who I believe are fooled by the shiny veneer, and who remain unable to see the ruthless true nature of this industry that lies beneath it. I prefer user submitted homemade porn over ‘Pro model’ porn any day. Unfortunately even that is changing now too, as a lot of production costs now go into making ‘Pro model’ porn seem homemade. Have you seen the Rashida Jones porn industry documentary ‘Hot Girls Wanted‘ [3]? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-took-on-james-deen-and-broke-the-porn-industrys-silence https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-to... [2] https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/why-porn-stars-are-dying-at-an-alarming-rate/ https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/why-porn-stars-are-dying-at-an... [3] https://youtu.be/HNdw2uY9oHY https://youtu.be/HNdw2uY9oHY Edit: here’s another article relevant in this topic https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/09/28/youve-heard-of-rape-culture-but-have-you-heard-of-pedophile-culture/ https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/09/28/youve-heard-of-ra... and a quote from it: “In pedophile culture, I often catch men in public checking me out with eyes full of lust, until they see the hair on my legs — at which point, they resort to a theatrical display of disgust. I’ve eavesdropped on groups of college-age guys talking about how they won’t perform oral sex on a woman if her labia are too prominent. One man who had been pursuing sex with me for three years, suddenly changed his mind when I revealed that I do not, and will not, shave off my pubic hair. In other words, many men stop being attracted to me when reminded that I am a woman, and not a young girl. Surely all of these men, who have a “preference” for the aforementioned qualities in women, aren’t pedophiles by the strict definition of the word. But it seems that a high number of men, likely as a result of deep cultural conditioning, find many of the same things attractive in a woman that a pedophile would find attractive in a girlchild. Small labia, tight vaginas, intact hymens, baby-soft skin, hairless limbs and vulvas, eternal youthfulness, tiny frail bodies… As tumblr user reddressalert wrote, “how do we not recognize that this is essentially a description of a baby or a toddler?”“

sharemywin 6y ago

The problem is things like facebook and youtube that figure out/decide what you should see next.

rsynnott 6y ago

> Sites like Buzzfeed quickly blurted out "Oh noes, now that anyone can publish, will the publishing industry survive?" ... Wait, Buzzfeed, which was founded, as a website, in 2006, was concerned about the rise of blogs, personal websites, and forums, all of which were going into decline by 2006 with the coming of social media? Buzzfeed didn't even employ journalists til 2010 or so.

MiroF 6y ago
The parent comment is pretty obviously ill-informed for anyone who has any familiarity with/adjacency to the print journalism/publishing industry.