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Salary based on an individual’s needs is quite the “hmmmmm” moment. It is one of the reasons Violet Newstead — Lily Tomlin’s character in 9 to 5 — is given whe

Salary based on an individual’s needs is quite the “hmmmmm” moment. It is one of the reasons Violet Newstead — Lily Tomlin’s character in 9 to 5 — is given when she furiously demands to know why she was passed over for a fair promotion. The guy who got the job instead? Well had a wife and kids to support. He needed it more.

luckylion 6y ago
Regarding having a family: that's also a signal for stability. If you have a family and have settled down, there's less risk for the employer that you'll quit. I don't know how large the difference is for men and women with children and who's family planning is complete. For young women who have no children, the "risk" (from the employer's perspective) of pregnancy and motherhood is another large factor.
- matthewbauer 6y ago
  I don’t think those rationalizations would protect you from a lawsuit. In the US, equal pay for equal work based on gender is the law nowadays.
- telesilla 6y ago
  You'll quit as a young, single anything if you are treated without respect... Besides, the line in this film was to point out the sexism in society where women work for free - in this case, the man's wife who is at home with the children while the boss is able to take advantage of this situation to get more out of his worker. On top of, the obviousness that the worker is less likely to quit because of the family 'burden' where, back to the circular sexism, the wife cannot be the one getting the job because she is a woman.. Remote working hugely serves to balance the possibility of everyone regardless of gender and nationality to access the jobs that best fit their talent and work ethic. I'll be very very interested to see what happens to traditional gender and nationality roles once it's fully entrenched.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    I'm sorry, I don't know the movie, my comment wasn't on its story. The "has family" checkbox isn't so much a sexist thing, I believe. A woman with children is also much less likely to just pack her bag and move to India on her search for enlightenment, she has more things tying her down, making her more predictable. If you want a long term employee, you'll pick a woman with children over a single man without children, all other things being equal. Remote working might have an impact there. But if you believe that there are hidden biases holding some people back, they won't just go away, and remote working isn't going to change that, unless you completely anonymize any communication between the employees and the company. Would be a fun experiment, but I don't know how practical it is.

luckylion 6y ago

Regarding having a family: that's also a signal for stability. If you have a family and have settled down, there's less risk for the employer that you'll quit. I don't know how large the difference is for men and women with children and who's family planning is complete. For young women who have no children, the "risk" (from the employer's perspective) of pregnancy and motherhood is another large factor.

matthewbauer 6y ago
I don’t think those rationalizations would protect you from a lawsuit. In the US, equal pay for equal work based on gender is the law nowadays.
telesilla 6y ago
You'll quit as a young, single anything if you are treated without respect... Besides, the line in this film was to point out the sexism in society where women work for free - in this case, the man's wife who is at home with the children while the boss is able to take advantage of this situation to get more out of his worker. On top of, the obviousness that the worker is less likely to quit because of the family 'burden' where, back to the circular sexism, the wife cannot be the one getting the job because she is a woman.. Remote working hugely serves to balance the possibility of everyone regardless of gender and nationality to access the jobs that best fit their talent and work ethic. I'll be very very interested to see what happens to traditional gender and nationality roles once it's fully entrenched.
- luckylion 6y ago
  I'm sorry, I don't know the movie, my comment wasn't on its story. The "has family" checkbox isn't so much a sexist thing, I believe. A woman with children is also much less likely to just pack her bag and move to India on her search for enlightenment, she has more things tying her down, making her more predictable. If you want a long term employee, you'll pick a woman with children over a single man without children, all other things being equal. Remote working might have an impact there. But if you believe that there are hidden biases holding some people back, they won't just go away, and remote working isn't going to change that, unless you completely anonymize any communication between the employees and the company. Would be a fun experiment, but I don't know how practical it is.