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I guess I'm much more conservative than other folks, but I think we've scratched only 10% of the surface of the benefits that things like Kubernetes, Consul, Va

I guess I'm much more conservative than other folks, but I think we've scratched only 10% of the surface of the benefits that things like Kubernetes, Consul, Vault and Terraform should/will provide. So they're on the list. I feel like at my job I'm pushing at the edges (as far as running large scale, stable production) and we've still got miles left. Also Bazel. I guess this is a boring answer.

thundergolfer 6y ago
Was also going to post Bazel. Here's the best 'elevator pitch' for Bazel that I know of. 3 minutes from Oscar Boykin about why Bazel (or at least a Bazel-like system) is the future. https://youtu.be/t_Omlhh7IJc?t=40 https://youtu.be/t_Omlhh7IJc?t=40
bionhoward 6y ago
Terraform is a game changer and easy to learn
kortex 6y ago
Is there anything like "terraform provider for bare metal"? Would be soo convenient to just go from full nuke and pave to functional dev machine with a single config repo.
- jcims 6y ago
  pxe boot?
- busterarm 6y ago
  https://github.com/Roblox/terraform-provider-maas https://github.com/Roblox/terraform-provider-maas
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  Terraform alone just does infra provisioning, but it can call a script for application setup.
elevenoh 6y ago
>I think we've scratched only 10% of the surface of the benefits that things like Kubernetes, Consul, Vault and Terraform should/will provide. What benefits are we not seeing? So many apps over-engineer their scalability.
- busterarm 6y ago
  What benefits aren't we seeing? End-to-end automation still isn't done in most places and it's considered hard. Having made a significant automation investment, I can say that it's easier after you've put some of the work in. It trends towards easiness but up front cant seem insurmountably hard. Caveat: Our infrastructure bill is stretching about ten million yearly and our team is small (avg. about 1M being managed per person), size your expectations appropriately.
timClicks 6y ago
Happy to be told otherwise, but I think that Juju is the only tool in that space that understands inter-connected applications and to spin up services that span k8s/VMs/clouds and work together.

thundergolfer 6y ago

Was also going to post Bazel. Here's the best 'elevator pitch' for Bazel that I know of. 3 minutes from Oscar Boykin about why Bazel (or at least a Bazel-like system) is the future. https://youtu.be/t_Omlhh7IJc?t=40 https://youtu.be/t_Omlhh7IJc?t=40

bionhoward 6y ago

Terraform is a game changer and easy to learn

kortex 6y ago

Is there anything like "terraform provider for bare metal"? Would be soo convenient to just go from full nuke and pave to functional dev machine with a single config repo.

jcims 6y ago
pxe boot?
busterarm 6y ago
https://github.com/Roblox/terraform-provider-maas https://github.com/Roblox/terraform-provider-maas
redis_mlc 6y ago
Terraform alone just does infra provisioning, but it can call a script for application setup.

elevenoh 6y ago

>I think we've scratched only 10% of the surface of the benefits that things like Kubernetes, Consul, Vault and Terraform should/will provide. What benefits are we not seeing? So many apps over-engineer their scalability.

busterarm 6y ago
What benefits aren't we seeing? End-to-end automation still isn't done in most places and it's considered hard. Having made a significant automation investment, I can say that it's easier after you've put some of the work in. It trends towards easiness but up front cant seem insurmountably hard. Caveat: Our infrastructure bill is stretching about ten million yearly and our team is small (avg. about 1M being managed per person), size your expectations appropriately.

timClicks 6y ago

Happy to be told otherwise, but I think that Juju is the only tool in that space that understands inter-connected applications and to spin up services that span k8s/VMs/clouds and work together.