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VR. It seems just about ready, but still a little too expensive. While good games are obviously already there, I'm more curious about work. Would an infinite d

by hnick 6y ago

VR. It seems just about ready, but still a little too expensive. While good games are obviously already there, I'm more curious about work. Would an infinite desktop with an appropriate interface beat the reliable old 2x24" screen setup I have? I think it could.

dvt 6y ago
> While good games are obviously already there, I'm more curious about work. Good games are most definitely not there. The consensus is that Alyx is really the only worthwhile VR title. Just about everything else is gimmicky and trite. VR still has a long way to go.
- duncanawoods 6y ago
  Skyrim and Fallout 4 are breathtaking in VR.
- hnick 6y ago
  I'm in no position to judge having played none, but I've heard glowing reviews for more than just Alyx but didn't commit any titles to memory since I'm not planning to be an early adopter. However, some do admit current VR is heavily carried by the novelty of using your hands (much like the Wii's motion controls made many average games enjoyable while it was fresh).
- XCSme 6y ago
  I play Eleven Table Tennis (as the table tennis clubs were closed due covid). That game is the best simulation game you can play today. The physics are very close to reality, so close that in-game and IRL skills are immediately transferable. The biggest issues of the game that I encounter are not with the game itself, but with the tracking limitations of the Rift S inside-out tracking.
signaru 6y ago
Not just for games. Imagine VR tourism, meetings... or even escapism. Especially these days. Last time I used one the graphics isn't as immersive yet. I don't mind tethering it to a powerful computer. But image quality is a must.
- duncanawoods 6y ago
  I enjoy VR games but none of those sound attractive to me or at least with head-seats and controllers. Interactive virtual worlds are wondrous but not actually terrible practical for traditional tasks. Something that is perfect though is training for roles involving a lot of awareness and physical interaction in rare and extreme environments e.g. emergency workers, police, soldiers etc.
zmmmmm 6y ago
I think it's at an interesting tipping point. Products like the Quest are crossing the threshold to where it's affordable, completely self-contained and high quality enough to provide a great true VR experience. They need to about halve the cost while maintaining quality and if they can do that then there is no reason why this shouldn't explode into the market place.
radarthreat 6y ago
Nobody wants to wear a VR headset all day
mindvirus 6y ago
I've had so many moments in VR where I could glimpse the future, I'm definitely bullish. The problems seem incrementally solvable - display resolution portability and comfort seem like they are easy enough to solve with time, and better/higher fidelity inputs. A big thing with it as well I think will be focus, I'd love to be able to entirely shut out the world while working on something for 90 minutes or so. This is one where I think it'll get to be good enough outside of niche gaming and just take off - my prediction is it'll take about 6 more years (i.e. 3 more release cycles) before the hardware is past the post.

by hnick 6y ago

dvt 6y ago

> While good games are obviously already there, I'm more curious about work. Good games are most definitely not there. The consensus is that Alyx is really the only worthwhile VR title. Just about everything else is gimmicky and trite. VR still has a long way to go.

duncanawoods 6y ago
Skyrim and Fallout 4 are breathtaking in VR.
hnick 6y ago
I'm in no position to judge having played none, but I've heard glowing reviews for more than just Alyx but didn't commit any titles to memory since I'm not planning to be an early adopter. However, some do admit current VR is heavily carried by the novelty of using your hands (much like the Wii's motion controls made many average games enjoyable while it was fresh).
XCSme 6y ago
I play Eleven Table Tennis (as the table tennis clubs were closed due covid). That game is the best simulation game you can play today. The physics are very close to reality, so close that in-game and IRL skills are immediately transferable. The biggest issues of the game that I encounter are not with the game itself, but with the tracking limitations of the Rift S inside-out tracking.

signaru 6y ago

Not just for games. Imagine VR tourism, meetings... or even escapism. Especially these days. Last time I used one the graphics isn't as immersive yet. I don't mind tethering it to a powerful computer. But image quality is a must.

duncanawoods 6y ago
I enjoy VR games but none of those sound attractive to me or at least with head-seats and controllers. Interactive virtual worlds are wondrous but not actually terrible practical for traditional tasks. Something that is perfect though is training for roles involving a lot of awareness and physical interaction in rare and extreme environments e.g. emergency workers, police, soldiers etc.

zmmmmm 6y ago

I think it's at an interesting tipping point. Products like the Quest are crossing the threshold to where it's affordable, completely self-contained and high quality enough to provide a great true VR experience. They need to about halve the cost while maintaining quality and if they can do that then there is no reason why this shouldn't explode into the market place.

radarthreat 6y ago

Nobody wants to wear a VR headset all day

mindvirus 6y ago

I've had so many moments in VR where I could glimpse the future, I'm definitely bullish. The problems seem incrementally solvable - display resolution portability and comfort seem like they are easy enough to solve with time, and better/higher fidelity inputs. A big thing with it as well I think will be focus, I'd love to be able to entirely shut out the world while working on something for 90 minutes or so. This is one where I think it'll get to be good enough outside of niche gaming and just take off - my prediction is it'll take about 6 more years (i.e. 3 more release cycles) before the hardware is past the post.