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I have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16in and I hate it. It runs exceptionally hot (leading to massive performance problems), doesn't get enough power from the adapter to

I have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16in and I hate it. It runs exceptionally hot (leading to massive performance problems), doesn't get enough power from the adapter to start with no battery, doesn't play nicely with my display, needs restarting every couple of days so Chrome doesn't crash and takes forever to boot. That's just the technical problems. I'm willing to give the UI a break, since it's probably as much me adjusting as it being bad. This is my first Apple anything, and if this is what "just works" looks like, I don't want it. I could be more productive on an Android tablet at this point.

carnitas 6y ago
Counterpoint, I also have the 16 inch 2020 MBP as my first Mac work laptop and absolutely love it. No issues, it works perfectly, and I’m 2x as productive on it as I was on my previous Ubuntu setup.
arkis22 6y ago
Mine starts spinning up the fan (theres kind of a pattern as to when), heating up the entire computer. The computer previously had been fine. I usually have to restart and reset the "SMC" to stop the fan from nuking the computer. I can let the computer drop to 5% battery life and the fan will turn off and the computer will cool down. Which is the opposite of what you want if it was actually overheating.
mindfulhack 6y ago
Actually, I do agree with you with some of those observations. Apple's been trying to fix their terrible T2 issue and I suspect some of the problems lately have been them trying to prevent the T2 reboot crash, while ruining other parts of the experience in the process as a necessary compromise. It may get worse (or better) as they move to all-Arm architecture. I also am sick of the touch bar now - after 2 years living with it. I have to press it twice to actually pause my media, because it's an LCD screen and it has to auto turn off to prevent burn-in. That's a regression from the old hard media button in the Fn row which was both instant and far easier to press. At least we got 'Esc' back. But man, their trackpad...nothing beats it. Still.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  > it's an LCD screen OLED.
  - mindfulhack 6y ago
    I hear OLED can be just as bad if not worse. So same diff.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Much worse. Just explaining why that would be a problem.

carnitas 6y ago

Counterpoint, I also have the 16 inch 2020 MBP as my first Mac work laptop and absolutely love it. No issues, it works perfectly, and I’m 2x as productive on it as I was on my previous Ubuntu setup.

arkis22 6y ago

Mine starts spinning up the fan (theres kind of a pattern as to when), heating up the entire computer. The computer previously had been fine. I usually have to restart and reset the "SMC" to stop the fan from nuking the computer. I can let the computer drop to 5% battery life and the fan will turn off and the computer will cool down. Which is the opposite of what you want if it was actually overheating.

mindfulhack 6y ago

Actually, I do agree with you with some of those observations. Apple's been trying to fix their terrible T2 issue and I suspect some of the problems lately have been them trying to prevent the T2 reboot crash, while ruining other parts of the experience in the process as a necessary compromise. It may get worse (or better) as they move to all-Arm architecture. I also am sick of the touch bar now - after 2 years living with it. I have to press it twice to actually pause my media, because it's an LCD screen and it has to auto turn off to prevent burn-in. That's a regression from the old hard media button in the Fn row which was both instant and far easier to press. At least we got 'Esc' back. But man, their trackpad...nothing beats it. Still.

saagarjha 6y ago
> it's an LCD screen OLED.
- mindfulhack 6y ago
  I hear OLED can be just as bad if not worse. So same diff.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Much worse. Just explaining why that would be a problem.