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If the touch bar (which I agree is useless, or worse, actively counterproductive) is the worst thing he's annoyed by, then Apple is doing pretty well for a comp

If the touch bar (which I agree is useless, or worse, actively counterproductive) is the worst thing he's annoyed by, then Apple is doing pretty well for a computer manufacturer selling 20M units annually, don't you think? I think we have to have some self-realization that the gripes that appear here generally are so specialized (the MacOS Catalina notarization problem just today) that if you sit here you think the world is coming to an end. Yet millions of people purchase and seem to get along just fine with buying what Apple is offering. Now, admittedly, one of the great selling points of Apple Mac is that its power features are (were) designed exactly for developers and professionals to be easy and high-performing, so they need to pay attention to it. But they generally do, don't they? The notarization problem above, let's revisit in 1 month and see if it got some attention? I'm just saying that it's easy for your threshold for what's unacceptable has a tendency to keep on rising, and you get unhappy with smaller and smaller things. It's important to keep a perspective about it. If it is truly horrible what Apple is doing or becoming, well of course you know that Mac / Chrome / your favorite app or hardware were all born out of being unhappy with what someone else built, and going out to build something new themselves. Everyone is absolutely free to go and invent the next better thing and displace the old and tired.

cosmotic 6y ago
Selling well doesn't always mean doing well or doing good. IT departments for companies that give their staff macs will buy whatever garbage Apple makes available because they have no other option. Same with consumers stuck in the Apple ecosystem. I've been holding out on buying a mac for nearly a decade because they have no compelling products. I'm stuck using a hackintosh workstation and a crappy windows laptop for on the go.
- supernova87a 6y ago
  Right, as I said, it's up to Apple to make sure that the audience they served as their target market and made them popular, keeps being served properly. Or rightly let them lose market for it. On your last point, maybe you should consider whether being unhappy over some flaws in a product are worth inconveniencing yourself for 10 years. Is it really that bad?
- scarface74 6y ago
  Right, because most of Apple sells come from the Enterprise. Apple has a long history of going out of its way to support big enterprise to convince them to buy Macs.
nailer 6y ago
> the gripes that appear here generally are so specialized (the MacOS Catalina notarization problem just today) that if you sit here you think the world is coming to an end. Some (like z drawing issues in the original Catalina issues) affected everyone, but let's take that issue from today. Agreed, most people aren't software developers. But waiting up to 7 seconds to check a shell script every time you save it is pretty awful for software developers.

cosmotic 6y ago

Selling well doesn't always mean doing well or doing good. IT departments for companies that give their staff macs will buy whatever garbage Apple makes available because they have no other option. Same with consumers stuck in the Apple ecosystem. I've been holding out on buying a mac for nearly a decade because they have no compelling products. I'm stuck using a hackintosh workstation and a crappy windows laptop for on the go.

supernova87a 6y ago
Right, as I said, it's up to Apple to make sure that the audience they served as their target market and made them popular, keeps being served properly. Or rightly let them lose market for it. On your last point, maybe you should consider whether being unhappy over some flaws in a product are worth inconveniencing yourself for 10 years. Is it really that bad?
scarface74 6y ago
Right, because most of Apple sells come from the Enterprise. Apple has a long history of going out of its way to support big enterprise to convince them to buy Macs.

nailer 6y ago

> the gripes that appear here generally are so specialized (the MacOS Catalina notarization problem just today) that if you sit here you think the world is coming to an end. Some (like z drawing issues in the original Catalina issues) affected everyone, but let's take that issue from today. Agreed, most people aren't software developers. But waiting up to 7 seconds to check a shell script every time you save it is pretty awful for software developers.