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> If rich people who know less have higher SAT scores than poor people who know more This considers only academic knowledge, and specifically only that knowled

by zamfi 6y ago

> If rich people who know less have higher SAT scores than poor people who know more This considers only academic knowledge, and specifically only that knowledge that can be assessed in a standardized way. Such knowledge makes up a very small fraction of success -- though you could make the argument that students' ability to acquire and demonstrate it probably correlates with success much more than the knowledge itself. Second, why would you want to go to college with a bunch of other kids who just meet some bar on some measure of academic capability? At least in the US, college is most kids' first experience living away from home for an extended period of time. Wouldn't you want to be with driven individuals, interesting conversationalists, performers, intellectual peers across other disciplines, etc.? Why limit admissions to "book smarts"? Why is that the most fair?

tsimionescu 6y ago
My understanding of a university is exactly as a place of learning of academic knowledge. If academic knowledge is not the most important value in an university, then I really don't understand what the purpose could be. As such, in a university setting, I expect to be surrounded by people who are curious, who value learning, who are building up the skills and knowledge to excel in their chosen fields. In my own country, universities are usually specialized, and further divided into highly specialized 'faculties', which has upsides but also downsides. Still, even in the American college system, I would expect all of my peers to be interested in excelling in their chosen fields of study, whether that is music or sports or medicine or computer science. I would not expect to be surrounded by people who are just ok at academic knowledge but are really driven social workers, or by people who have basic knowledge in a lot of fields, but no advanced knowledge at all.
- zamfi 6y ago
  > I expect to be surrounded by people who are curious, who value learning, who are building up the skills and knowledge to excel in their chosen fields. Do you truly believe you can measure this with a single standardized exam? I’m not even sure you can measure academic knowledge with a standardized exam, let alone all the other attributes we agree we’d like to see in peers at university. One thing is for certain: the SAT is not that exam.

by zamfi 6y ago

tsimionescu 6y ago

My understanding of a university is exactly as a place of learning of academic knowledge. If academic knowledge is not the most important value in an university, then I really don't understand what the purpose could be. As such, in a university setting, I expect to be surrounded by people who are curious, who value learning, who are building up the skills and knowledge to excel in their chosen fields. In my own country, universities are usually specialized, and further divided into highly specialized 'faculties', which has upsides but also downsides. Still, even in the American college system, I would expect all of my peers to be interested in excelling in their chosen fields of study, whether that is music or sports or medicine or computer science. I would not expect to be surrounded by people who are just ok at academic knowledge but are really driven social workers, or by people who have basic knowledge in a lot of fields, but no advanced knowledge at all.

zamfi 6y ago
> I expect to be surrounded by people who are curious, who value learning, who are building up the skills and knowledge to excel in their chosen fields. Do you truly believe you can measure this with a single standardized exam? I’m not even sure you can measure academic knowledge with a standardized exam, let alone all the other attributes we agree we’d like to see in peers at university. One thing is for certain: the SAT is not that exam.