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Windows 10 is a free subscription, and users don't necessarily own a license of their operating system. Under this precedent, what is to stop Microsoft from de

Windows 10 is a free subscription, and users don't necessarily own a license of their operating system. Under this precedent, what is to stop Microsoft from deleting problematic files off of users' computers? After all, it's a privately owned platform.

joshuamorton 6y ago
It's not clear that the file itself was removed, only that sharing it was disabled. So no file was deleted. You own the storage space you use when using windows on your personal device.
jrockway 6y ago
Windows 10 routinely deletes problematic files from peoples computers; it's called "Windows Defender". Most users are happy to let Microsoft delete malware. The reason that propaganda videos aren't detected as malware because none of these companies give a damn about what you're using your computer or your private storage for. It is a ton of extra work for them to run some censorship side business to specifically annoy conspiracy theorists. The reason that YouTube deletes propaganda videos is because nobody will advertise on them. They cost money to store and serve to viewers, but will never generate revenue. Some are so bad that they drive advertisers away from other videos. All this "censorship" is at the behest of advertisers, or fear of backlash from advertisers. The thing with YouTube is that its greatest power is its greatest weakness. They let anyone in the world serve 4k or 8k videos to an infinite number of users. They find advertisers for your videos and automatically run their ads on your videos, so that you can get cash money from producing them. And, there is a recommendation engine so that viewers can discover your video and channel. With those advantages, come disadvantages -- the service as a whole is called YouTube, and so a bad video on your channel reflects poorly on other channels and the service as a whole. So they have guidelines to protect their success, at the cost of not making all the advantages available to you. That is why there are "guidelines". I am sure if you buy a Google Cloud account and pay for the transfer and storage of your content, and find your own advertisers to fund it, you can host as many conspiracy theory videos as you want and nobody will stop you. But I think you'll find that you make negative money on this proposition. (Also, I personally paid $200 for Windows 10, so I'm not sure how people are getting it for free.)
- true_religion 6y ago
  If you had a previous version of Windows, the upgrading to Windows 10 was free. Additionally, you can download Windows 10 and never activate it and all it will do is show a watermark indicating it is not activated. You can always pay for Windows. I think Windows 10 Pro is pay only.
  - mlvljr 6y ago
    Still just watermarked, in fact.
    - fao_ 6y ago
      Hi there! It looks like you're shadowbanned, although I don't see the reason why. I vouched for this comment so people can see it, as it doesn't seem to be inherently harmful or against the guidelines. You should probably message Dang.
- AstralStorm 6y ago
  Defender only puts things into quarantine automatically. Which is annoying, but not as problematic. Deleting or restoring is manual.
boomboomsubban 6y ago
>what is to stop Microsoft from deleting problematic files off of users' computers? The cost benefit analysis of massively upsetting users. If memory serves, they used to use this method to target Windows piracy.

joshuamorton 6y ago

It's not clear that the file itself was removed, only that sharing it was disabled. So no file was deleted. You own the storage space you use when using windows on your personal device.

jrockway 6y ago

Windows 10 routinely deletes problematic files from peoples computers; it's called "Windows Defender". Most users are happy to let Microsoft delete malware. The reason that propaganda videos aren't detected as malware because none of these companies give a damn about what you're using your computer or your private storage for. It is a ton of extra work for them to run some censorship side business to specifically annoy conspiracy theorists. The reason that YouTube deletes propaganda videos is because nobody will advertise on them. They cost money to store and serve to viewers, but will never generate revenue. Some are so bad that they drive advertisers away from other videos. All this "censorship" is at the behest of advertisers, or fear of backlash from advertisers. The thing with YouTube is that its greatest power is its greatest weakness. They let anyone in the world serve 4k or 8k videos to an infinite number of users. They find advertisers for your videos and automatically run their ads on your videos, so that you can get cash money from producing them. And, there is a recommendation engine so that viewers can discover your video and channel. With those advantages, come disadvantages -- the service as a whole is called YouTube, and so a bad video on your channel reflects poorly on other channels and the service as a whole. So they have guidelines to protect their success, at the cost of not making all the advantages available to you. That is why there are "guidelines". I am sure if you buy a Google Cloud account and pay for the transfer and storage of your content, and find your own advertisers to fund it, you can host as many conspiracy theory videos as you want and nobody will stop you. But I think you'll find that you make negative money on this proposition. (Also, I personally paid $200 for Windows 10, so I'm not sure how people are getting it for free.)

true_religion 6y ago
If you had a previous version of Windows, the upgrading to Windows 10 was free. Additionally, you can download Windows 10 and never activate it and all it will do is show a watermark indicating it is not activated. You can always pay for Windows. I think Windows 10 Pro is pay only.
- mlvljr 6y ago
  Still just watermarked, in fact.
  - fao_ 6y ago
    Hi there! It looks like you're shadowbanned, although I don't see the reason why. I vouched for this comment so people can see it, as it doesn't seem to be inherently harmful or against the guidelines. You should probably message Dang.
AstralStorm 6y ago
Defender only puts things into quarantine automatically. Which is annoying, but not as problematic. Deleting or restoring is manual.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

>what is to stop Microsoft from deleting problematic files off of users' computers? The cost benefit analysis of massively upsetting users. If memory serves, they used to use this method to target Windows piracy.