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It goes both ways. There are studies showing it is a statistically and clinically significant treatment [1]. Whether those results are reproducible or not remai

by eloff 6y ago

It goes both ways. There are studies showing it is a statistically and clinically significant treatment [1]. Whether those results are reproducible or not remains to be seen. Most of these studies you never hear about because many people on the left want Trump to be wrong or have a knee jerk reaction to anything he says. It even has a name: Trump derangement syndrome. Irrational behavior in both directions is indefensible. [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v... [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335560/

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danans 6y ago
> Irrational behavior in both directions is indefensible. Agreed that any political side is capable of false narratives, but that's hardly what's going on here. Nobody with the fundamental desire for a treatment for themselves and those they care about should they fall severely ill would want any proven effective treatment to be dismissed for political reasons, whether that is hydroxychloroquine or anything else. The problem is that what should have been left as an investigation into a medication with no political colors was turned into a political wedge by the US president who seemingly aspired to use it to regain relevance during this crisis. The same thing has also happened for the various promotions of very preliminary vaccines, or of a fictional nationally deployed testing website that was claimed by POTUS to be under development by Google. This follows the basic principle guiding this administration and its leader that there is no such thing as bad publicity. And to a certain extent, they might even be right. Time will tell.
- eloff 6y ago
  Every reference I've seen to Hydroxychloroquine in the media is quick to denounce it as a dangerous, discredited treatment. So I think this is not just irrationality on the part of the left, but an example of the gated institutional narrative suppressing ideas. Not to take away from the irrationality of blind faith in anything Trump says seen on the right. If you look at the experts, they're still designing studies to test it, and there are some papers suggesting it does work. The jury is very much still out on this subject.
  - danans 6y ago
    > If you look at the experts, they're still designing studies to test it, and there are some papers suggesting it does work. The jury is very much still out on this subject. I'd like nothing more than for hydroxychloroquine to be an effective treatment, so we can end this crisis. It should continue to be explored and investigated. At the very least we might learn something new that will help with its known effective use in treating malaria or autoimmune diseases like lupus. But it should never have been turned into a political football, and the person responsible for that is unmistakably the POTUS.
    - eloff 6y ago
      Yep, with you there. POTUS should not be making recommendations outside his field of expertise, unless he's merely quoting the experts.

by eloff 6y ago

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danans 6y ago

> Irrational behavior in both directions is indefensible. Agreed that any political side is capable of false narratives, but that's hardly what's going on here. Nobody with the fundamental desire for a treatment for themselves and those they care about should they fall severely ill would want any proven effective treatment to be dismissed for political reasons, whether that is hydroxychloroquine or anything else. The problem is that what should have been left as an investigation into a medication with no political colors was turned into a political wedge by the US president who seemingly aspired to use it to regain relevance during this crisis. The same thing has also happened for the various promotions of very preliminary vaccines, or of a fictional nationally deployed testing website that was claimed by POTUS to be under development by Google. This follows the basic principle guiding this administration and its leader that there is no such thing as bad publicity. And to a certain extent, they might even be right. Time will tell.

eloff 6y ago
Every reference I've seen to Hydroxychloroquine in the media is quick to denounce it as a dangerous, discredited treatment. So I think this is not just irrationality on the part of the left, but an example of the gated institutional narrative suppressing ideas. Not to take away from the irrationality of blind faith in anything Trump says seen on the right. If you look at the experts, they're still designing studies to test it, and there are some papers suggesting it does work. The jury is very much still out on this subject.
- danans 6y ago
  > If you look at the experts, they're still designing studies to test it, and there are some papers suggesting it does work. The jury is very much still out on this subject. I'd like nothing more than for hydroxychloroquine to be an effective treatment, so we can end this crisis. It should continue to be explored and investigated. At the very least we might learn something new that will help with its known effective use in treating malaria or autoimmune diseases like lupus. But it should never have been turned into a political football, and the person responsible for that is unmistakably the POTUS.
  - eloff 6y ago
    Yep, with you there. POTUS should not be making recommendations outside his field of expertise, unless he's merely quoting the experts.