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Invalid comparison for two reasons. Hong Kong as per release in the 90s was to be given autonomy over it's own territory. Secondly, while the US certainly has i

Invalid comparison for two reasons. Hong Kong as per release in the 90s was to be given autonomy over it's own territory. Secondly, while the US certainly has it's share of skeletons they do not compare to modern day China. As I recall, the last time the US hired organized crime to beat protestors in the streets was in the early 20th century.

billfruit 6y ago
Anyways New Territories was to revert to China at the end of British Lease in 1997. Only Kowloon and HK island was British territory, but PRC views the treaties at the end of the Opium War that granted British the possession of these areas to be "unfair and unequal". So PRC will continue to argue and assert that none has locus standi on this matter except them, and that Hong Kong is Chinese territory.
- smacktoward 6y ago
  They will argue that, sure. But if their position is that any agreement they have ever signed can retroactively be declared invalid whenever it suits them, that’s bad news not just for Hong Kong but for the entire world. Signing treaties and then tearing them up when they became inconvenient was the behavior by Hitler that dragged the world into World War II.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    HK has always been part of China. It was a Chinese territory under foreign colonial rule. What we're seeing now is a domestic Chinese political issue that has developed ultimately as a result of the Chinese Civil War. It's really a masterstroke to have convinced Western opinion that this was an international issue between HK and China.
  - mikem170 6y ago
    International agreements are routinely abrogated when they no longer suit one or both parties. Every country is guilty of this. Might makes right in geopolitics. There is no international court to take a broken treaty to. Nation states pretty much always act in their self interest when they can. China thinks that it is in their self interest to do this. Someone can try to change their mind, but it probably won't be easy.
chrstphrhrt 6y ago
Yeah, we've graduated to using militarized police to do that for a while now.
- aporetics 6y ago
  Now imagine how scary the police would be if they were the arm of a political party.
billfruit 6y ago
This isn't about US or Chinese skeletons. The fact is that in US as well as in most countries including western democracies, the federal police/law enforcement is allowed to operate in all their own territories, including states, provinces and cities.

billfruit 6y ago

Anyways New Territories was to revert to China at the end of British Lease in 1997. Only Kowloon and HK island was British territory, but PRC views the treaties at the end of the Opium War that granted British the possession of these areas to be "unfair and unequal". So PRC will continue to argue and assert that none has locus standi on this matter except them, and that Hong Kong is Chinese territory.

smacktoward 6y ago
They will argue that, sure. But if their position is that any agreement they have ever signed can retroactively be declared invalid whenever it suits them, that’s bad news not just for Hong Kong but for the entire world. Signing treaties and then tearing them up when they became inconvenient was the behavior by Hitler that dragged the world into World War II.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  HK has always been part of China. It was a Chinese territory under foreign colonial rule. What we're seeing now is a domestic Chinese political issue that has developed ultimately as a result of the Chinese Civil War. It's really a masterstroke to have convinced Western opinion that this was an international issue between HK and China.
- mikem170 6y ago
  International agreements are routinely abrogated when they no longer suit one or both parties. Every country is guilty of this. Might makes right in geopolitics. There is no international court to take a broken treaty to. Nation states pretty much always act in their self interest when they can. China thinks that it is in their self interest to do this. Someone can try to change their mind, but it probably won't be easy.

chrstphrhrt 6y ago

Yeah, we've graduated to using militarized police to do that for a while now.

aporetics 6y ago
Now imagine how scary the police would be if they were the arm of a political party.

billfruit 6y ago

This isn't about US or Chinese skeletons. The fact is that in US as well as in most countries including western democracies, the federal police/law enforcement is allowed to operate in all their own territories, including states, provinces and cities.