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Seriously. All the apps that default to 24 hour time when it's not what my device is set to are annoying.
by Kye 6y ago
Seriously. All the apps that default to 24 hour time when it's not what my device is set to are annoying.
- gambiting 6y agoWould I be incorrect to assume that something like 17:00 will be understood by literally everyone in the world(if maybe not the preferred format) though? Using AM/PM is worse in a sense that say someone in Poland will literally have no idea which means which. 24 hour clock has no ambiguity. Unless I'm wrong and there are countries or cultures which literally won't understand what time 17:00 is?
- Kye 6y agoI don't intuitively know 17:00 is afternoon. I have to think about it. You get used to what you grow up with.
- dkarp 6y agoIt also may or may not be evening [1] 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evening https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evening
- myrandomcomment 6y agoIf you are an American joining the military is a quick lesson. Dates are d/m/y and time is 0000hrs. Distance for anything that is not your PT run is in KM. I had lived overseas so not a big deal for me, but others in my unit struggled for a bit. I have forced doing both f/c, mi/km and 12/24 on my family from the start. Both my wife and kid where pretty happy I did when we started traveling outside the US quit a bit. No issues on if they needed a jacket, how far away it was and what the transport schedule said.
- pjc50 6y ago17:00 is unambiguous. 9:00 could be AM or PM. 09:00 nearly always means 24H format; but what about 11:00? Siri should just start using "Zulu" time. /s
- Recursing 6y agoI think almost everybody in European countries knows about AM/PM, but I certainly get confused by 11:59 AM vs 12:00 AM
- Kye 6y agoOn the topic: Siri will ask you to clarify if you set a reminder too close to midnight. "Did you mean 11am tomorrow?" It also works on the other side: set a reminder for "2" at 1am and it'll ask you to specify.
- criddell 6y agoI've never been able to keep 12 AM vs 12 PM straight in my head. If I have to put something on my calendar or set an alarm for that time, I always use 11:59 AM or PM. Is there a mnemonic or trick for remembering?
- mc32 6y agoYes, you can’t have 12:01AM being in the afternoon, so 12:00AM must be one minute before 12:01AM, so it is also dark.
- lebuffon 6y agoIt might go back to Anglo-Norman (Frenchish) language: Apres midi Post midi
- gmac 6y agoIt's usually held to be Latin: ante and post meridiem[1]. But surely the whole point is that midday itself is neither before nor after midday, while midnight is precisely equally both before and after? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock
- lozf 6y agoBut "apres" also means after.
- latch 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_representation_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_representation_b... with a nice svg on the side. I wouldn't say "entire countries", but definitely a lot of people. I grew up (in canada) with 12 hour clocks.
- greggyb 6y agoIn the US, I have definitely met people who will profess not being able to understand military time (this is a common way to refer to 24-hour time). They would recognize it as a time, but not get any other context from it.
- JNRowe 6y agoIn the real London it is not entirely uncommon to find yourself in a conversation with American tourists where they're asking/complaining about "military time" on train timetables. The odd thing about it being most platforms have a countdown-style timer much like you'd find in a US metro system. I understand that sometimes they're just trying to interact with locals while on vacation, but it always seems like an odd starter. Depending on my mood you'll get a friendly chat about time displays¹, or a curt "it says 2 minutes 'til next train". 1. 24hr analog clocks worth visiting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepherd_Gate_Clock https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepherd_Gate_Clock , or metric time, or Swatch time, or ... I'm just as boring with strangers as with friends ;)
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoThere are huge swaths of Americans who will literally not know what 17:00 translates to in AM/PM. And even for the Americans that do know, virtually all of them (unless they are in the military or another profession that commonly uses 24h time), will have to "translate" by subtracting 12 in their head for PM times. 24h time is extremely rare in everyday use in the US.
- Jedd 6y agoThe demographic you're referring to - North Americans within the USA who don't know how 24-hour time works - are < 2% of the world's population.
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoSo? What's your point? If you're selling something in the US, and it gave time in 24hr time as the only option, most Americans would hate it.
- Jedd 6y agoMost?
- snowwrestler 6y agoTrue but the GP asked about "literally everyone in the world" and the parent is a correct and useful answer to that question.
- Jedd 6y agoYou're right. I tend to assume people that use the word 'literally' are using it incorrectly - as parent did. It's sad, but an ineluctable truth, that this word is almost always misunderstood and misused. In the (again, regrettable) common usage use of the word -- ie. 'almost all' -- the claim is likely valid.
- Beldin 6y ago> 24h time is extremely rare in everyday use in the US. Sure. > There are huge swaths of Americans who will literally not know what 17:00 translates to in AM/PM. 1. Same is true for most people in the world 2. Wait, you mean they don't know if 17:00 is early morning or late afternoon?? Seriously, I have a hard time to believe that. I'll believe that most Americans need to convert to am/pm, but not that "huge swaths" literally cannot understand this. My expectations of the average USA'ian are better than that.
- ancarda 6y agoHell, I live in the UK and I can't stand 24-hour time ("military time"). I have to convert in my head every single time by subtracting 12 to figure out what the time actually is. I hate 24 hour time so much. I won't use software that can't be configured to AM/PM.