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>Well that's capitalism right? It is indeed. It's quite a risky hand to play at a time where - cynicism about the tech industry has never been higher - there

>Well that's capitalism right? It is indeed. It's quite a risky hand to play at a time where - cynicism about the tech industry has never been higher - there's a magnifying glass on the inequality wrought by the hands of hardheaded capitalism in the West - globalism is being rejected - million of jobs have been lost - everything is being propped up with fiscal stimulus, in the coming months the true cost of the financial damage on the economy will come to fruition But if Tobias Lutke, Zuckerberg, etc. want to be the face of moving jobs out of the US and Canada in these times then by all means they can go ahead. Hopefully, if there's consequences to bear then it'll be on their heads too, and not the staff they've decided to drag along for the ride.

joelbluminator 6y ago
Facebook already has R&D centers around the world, you're talking as if this hasn't already happened. - cynicism about the tech industry has never been higher Exactly. That's why I don't think the average American is going to care about 250K a year jobs in Silicon Valley moving somewhere else. I don't see a lot of empathy to the millionaire class in the U.S
- cmdshiftf4 6y ago
  >Facebook already has R&D centers around the world, you're talking as if this hasn't already happened. Developed at a time where they could feasibly say there just wasn't the volume of talent in the US to support their ambitions. With all the startups going bust, big companies laying people off, etc. the same argument won't be feasible. In my eyes at least. >Exactly. That's why I don't think the average American is going to care about 250K a year jobs in Silicon Valley moving somewhere else. I don't see a lot of empathy to the millionaire class in the U.S That's one way of looking at it. Another is that FB and others moving the work away will directly impact the large swathes of people who work for these companies not in tech roles, and also decimate the local economy around their offices by dropping demand for local goods, services and by extension the jobs that exist to provide and fulfill the same. All it takes is a couple of Democratic figureheads to get on TV and say that Zuckerberg et al's actions will dis-proportionally throttle the lives of minorities and the socially disadvantaged, which is true, and presto, you further the ire toward them at a time when they can least afford it.
  - joelbluminator 6y ago
    They don't even have to fire anyone. They can just freeze hiring and hire more outside SV (which seems to be what they're doing). In 10 years 90% of their developers would work outside SV.

joelbluminator 6y ago

Facebook already has R&D centers around the world, you're talking as if this hasn't already happened. - cynicism about the tech industry has never been higher Exactly. That's why I don't think the average American is going to care about 250K a year jobs in Silicon Valley moving somewhere else. I don't see a lot of empathy to the millionaire class in the U.S

cmdshiftf4 6y ago
>Facebook already has R&D centers around the world, you're talking as if this hasn't already happened. Developed at a time where they could feasibly say there just wasn't the volume of talent in the US to support their ambitions. With all the startups going bust, big companies laying people off, etc. the same argument won't be feasible. In my eyes at least. >Exactly. That's why I don't think the average American is going to care about 250K a year jobs in Silicon Valley moving somewhere else. I don't see a lot of empathy to the millionaire class in the U.S That's one way of looking at it. Another is that FB and others moving the work away will directly impact the large swathes of people who work for these companies not in tech roles, and also decimate the local economy around their offices by dropping demand for local goods, services and by extension the jobs that exist to provide and fulfill the same. All it takes is a couple of Democratic figureheads to get on TV and say that Zuckerberg et al's actions will dis-proportionally throttle the lives of minorities and the socially disadvantaged, which is true, and presto, you further the ire toward them at a time when they can least afford it.
- joelbluminator 6y ago
  They don't even have to fire anyone. They can just freeze hiring and hire more outside SV (which seems to be what they're doing). In 10 years 90% of their developers would work outside SV.