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People are focusing on the good side of working from home but the fact is that a job from home can be done anywhere in the world. Why would a company limit it s

People are focusing on the good side of working from home but the fact is that a job from home can be done anywhere in the world. Why would a company limit it self to the U.S? Work from home jobs are going to go to the people that are can do the work and are willing to work for the least compensation.

triztian 6y ago
Legal risk, unfamiliarity with the remote job market, cultural differences. Some companies might no have the internal legal frameworks to hire remote in the US or far less outside the US, as an anecdote a company I used to work for was fully remote but only hired remote on some specific states, this because of tax laws that would vary in each state would complicate their operations. This was a smallish company, less than 40 people.
buzzkillington 6y ago
Because when I say fanny I don't want to hear from HR.
samename 6y ago
As smt88 said: > Money isn't the only issue, of course. Language skills, culture, educational background, security clearance, tax laws, infosec, time zones, law enforcement, etc. are all also factors.
cachestash 6y ago
> Why would a company limit it self to the U.S So this is essentially protectionism. I mean if engineers outside the US are just as talented and productive, why should a company only use US engineers, especially if their marketplace is global.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  They should. The concern US developers have is that devaluation doesn’t always occur in sanitary ways. Let’s say you have the same talent elsewhere, it’s likely a company will pay considerably less, and may also take advantage of other factors due to that person’s desperation - overwork, given less input/influence, less career growth/trajectory, more contract based, less full-time, less or no benefits, less laws, etc. So the quality of life for the US developer will not only come down in terms of pay, but also for all those other reasons. The worst part about it is that the off shore workers won’t regain those improvements for awhile (as in, until their standards go up over time - higher pay, etc). It’s a regression on more fronts than compensation, with the enemy not necessarily being developers (where ever they are), but more so the ruthless market mechanisms.
mech422 6y ago
Because the big craze to offshore everything about 10 years ago, failed spectacularly? Pretty much every coder/manager that was around for that can tell you horror stories. These might (probably?) have had nothing to do with the quality of the coders - A lot of it was due to cultural and language issues. Things like not realizing what the holiday schedule for a given region is, and 'suddenly' finding out you have a 2-4 week holiday in the middle of your production rollout...

triztian 6y ago

Legal risk, unfamiliarity with the remote job market, cultural differences. Some companies might no have the internal legal frameworks to hire remote in the US or far less outside the US, as an anecdote a company I used to work for was fully remote but only hired remote on some specific states, this because of tax laws that would vary in each state would complicate their operations. This was a smallish company, less than 40 people.

buzzkillington 6y ago

Because when I say fanny I don't want to hear from HR.

samename 6y ago

As smt88 said: > Money isn't the only issue, of course. Language skills, culture, educational background, security clearance, tax laws, infosec, time zones, law enforcement, etc. are all also factors.

cachestash 6y ago

> Why would a company limit it self to the U.S So this is essentially protectionism. I mean if engineers outside the US are just as talented and productive, why should a company only use US engineers, especially if their marketplace is global.

runawaybottle 6y ago
They should. The concern US developers have is that devaluation doesn’t always occur in sanitary ways. Let’s say you have the same talent elsewhere, it’s likely a company will pay considerably less, and may also take advantage of other factors due to that person’s desperation - overwork, given less input/influence, less career growth/trajectory, more contract based, less full-time, less or no benefits, less laws, etc. So the quality of life for the US developer will not only come down in terms of pay, but also for all those other reasons. The worst part about it is that the off shore workers won’t regain those improvements for awhile (as in, until their standards go up over time - higher pay, etc). It’s a regression on more fronts than compensation, with the enemy not necessarily being developers (where ever they are), but more so the ruthless market mechanisms.

mech422 6y ago

Because the big craze to offshore everything about 10 years ago, failed spectacularly? Pretty much every coder/manager that was around for that can tell you horror stories. These might (probably?) have had nothing to do with the quality of the coders - A lot of it was due to cultural and language issues. Things like not realizing what the holiday schedule for a given region is, and 'suddenly' finding out you have a 2-4 week holiday in the middle of your production rollout...