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Indeed, I briefly mentioned my service work with my church in my interviews as a part of an overview of me; it led to some of my larger accomplishments I wante

Indeed, I briefly mentioned my service work with my church in my interviews as a part of an overview of me; it led to some of my larger accomplishments I wanted to highlight. In most interviews, this resulted in me getting a look like I'd just grown a third eye. This after reading web pages full of smiling, multi-cultural faces that lectured me on just how diverse and open-minded students and alumni were at these universities. I'm a bit baffled; when did attending church become unusual in America?

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rayiner 6y ago
> I'm a bit baffled; when did attending church become unusual in America? It’s not. Even in Manhattan 45% of people attend religious services “frequently” or “regularly.”
- barry-cotter 6y ago
  It’s very unusual among the kind of people who staff the admissions departments of selective colleges though.
  - gowld 6y ago
    Harvard, The most elite school in USA, has a church in the center of campus, an official preacher, and a whole Divinity School.
    - barry-cotter 6y ago
      https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/faculty-faith.html https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/faculty-faith.html 37% of professors at elite universities are atheist or agnostic. Saying Harvard is friendly to the religious because it has a divinity school is like saying Stanford is a hotbed of the rightwing because of the Hoover Institution, except that you would expect a lot of atheists and agnostics at Harvard’s divinity school and no Marxists at Hoover.
      - lowdose 6y ago
        Could both the Hoover institution and the divinity school be a signal that there are no communists on campus? I sometimes wonder if the US is less secular than Europe because atheists were for a long time associated with communists. Church going people obviously couldn't be communists.
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csa 6y ago
> when did attending church become unusual in America? It’s not that common in elite liberal circles, especially in the NE corridor and California. Note that some people in this group do go to church, but it’s just not widely advertised and is typically not a central part of their lives (e.g.(compared to some places where going to church for some sort of event 2-3 times on Sunday and 1-2 times during the week is a thing). Also note that every Ivy League school was founded around a church and the church-based seminary/school. The same is true of many of the elite feeder prep schools. Note that there is a church prominently in the middle of all of the campuses. That said, rightly or wrongly, churches are associated with anti-science folks who are anathema to most academics and academic types.

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rayiner 6y ago

> I'm a bit baffled; when did attending church become unusual in America? It’s not. Even in Manhattan 45% of people attend religious services “frequently” or “regularly.”

barry-cotter 6y ago
It’s very unusual among the kind of people who staff the admissions departments of selective colleges though.
- gowld 6y ago
  Harvard, The most elite school in USA, has a church in the center of campus, an official preacher, and a whole Divinity School.
  - barry-cotter 6y ago
    https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/faculty-faith.html https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/faculty-faith.html 37% of professors at elite universities are atheist or agnostic. Saying Harvard is friendly to the religious because it has a divinity school is like saying Stanford is a hotbed of the rightwing because of the Hoover Institution, except that you would expect a lot of atheists and agnostics at Harvard’s divinity school and no Marxists at Hoover.
    - lowdose 6y ago
      Could both the Hoover institution and the divinity school be a signal that there are no communists on campus? I sometimes wonder if the US is less secular than Europe because atheists were for a long time associated with communists. Church going people obviously couldn't be communists.
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csa 6y ago

> when did attending church become unusual in America? It’s not that common in elite liberal circles, especially in the NE corridor and California. Note that some people in this group do go to church, but it’s just not widely advertised and is typically not a central part of their lives (e.g.(compared to some places where going to church for some sort of event 2-3 times on Sunday and 1-2 times during the week is a thing). Also note that every Ivy League school was founded around a church and the church-based seminary/school. The same is true of many of the elite feeder prep schools. Note that there is a church prominently in the middle of all of the campuses. That said, rightly or wrongly, churches are associated with anti-science folks who are anathema to most academics and academic types.