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They're creating their own test. > The unanimous 23-to-0 vote ratified a proposal put forward last month by UC President Janet Napolitano to phase out the exam

They're creating their own test. > The unanimous 23-to-0 vote ratified a proposal put forward last month by UC President Janet Napolitano to phase out the exams over the next five years until the sprawling UC system can develop its own test.

seibelj 6y ago
Likely not: > Ms. Napolitano’s proposal allows four years for the UC system to develop a new exam. If it fails to create or adopt one, then it likely would cease to use any exam, said Robert Schaeffer, public education director of the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, known as FairTest, which has fought against standardized testing for 30 years. Mr. Schaeffer said he doesn’t believe a new exam will be implemented. “It appears very unlikely that they will be able to design an instrument that is more accurate and fairer than relying on applicants’ high school records,” Mr. Schaeffer said. “And, if a new test somehow meets those goals promoters would face massive adoption barriers, including persuading UC and the rest of the admissions world that a third test is truly needed or useful.”
- stu2b50 6y ago
  To be fair, that's an assertion with zero evidence or even reasoning, from someone who, having "fought against standardized testing for 30 years", is not exactly an unbiased source.
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BurningFrog 6y ago
How would the new test be better than SAT?
gliese1337 6y ago
If they were to implement a new test, I can pretty much guarantee applications would drop like a rock; it would have the essential effect of limiting the applicant pool to Californians who don't want to go out-of-state for college--'cause when anyone else is applying for colleges, do you really think they'll want to take another big test just to add the UC system on to the big list that they can already apply to with an SAT or ACT?
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  Maybe the University of California system should primarily serve the people of California.
  - gliese1337 6y ago
    Maybe it should, but there is no indication that they have actually made a purposeful choice to go that route.
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      Except, you know, the news story we're commenting on.
flowerlad 6y ago
> They're creating their own test. And the new test will somehow be fairer because students with wealthy parents won't be able to get private tutors?

seibelj 6y ago

Likely not: > Ms. Napolitano’s proposal allows four years for the UC system to develop a new exam. If it fails to create or adopt one, then it likely would cease to use any exam, said Robert Schaeffer, public education director of the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, known as FairTest, which has fought against standardized testing for 30 years. Mr. Schaeffer said he doesn’t believe a new exam will be implemented. “It appears very unlikely that they will be able to design an instrument that is more accurate and fairer than relying on applicants’ high school records,” Mr. Schaeffer said. “And, if a new test somehow meets those goals promoters would face massive adoption barriers, including persuading UC and the rest of the admissions world that a third test is truly needed or useful.”

stu2b50 6y ago
To be fair, that's an assertion with zero evidence or even reasoning, from someone who, having "fought against standardized testing for 30 years", is not exactly an unbiased source.

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BurningFrog 6y ago

How would the new test be better than SAT?

gliese1337 6y ago

If they were to implement a new test, I can pretty much guarantee applications would drop like a rock; it would have the essential effect of limiting the applicant pool to Californians who don't want to go out-of-state for college--'cause when anyone else is applying for colleges, do you really think they'll want to take another big test just to add the UC system on to the big list that they can already apply to with an SAT or ACT?

ciarannolan 6y ago
Maybe the University of California system should primarily serve the people of California.
- gliese1337 6y ago
  Maybe it should, but there is no indication that they have actually made a purposeful choice to go that route.
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    Except, you know, the news story we're commenting on.

flowerlad 6y ago

> They're creating their own test. And the new test will somehow be fairer because students with wealthy parents won't be able to get private tutors?