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Please, stop spreading FUD. First, we didn't do an AMA on Reddit. Then, the UI/UX part of VLC is around 1/30th of the VLC codebase (not counting external libr

by jbk 16y ago

Please, stop spreading FUD. First, we didn't do an AMA on Reddit. Then, the UI/UX part of VLC is around 1/30th of the VLC codebase (not counting external libraries) and most of the code is demuxers, decoders, protocol handlers (all custom), video outputs, video filter, clock, audio filters and libraries wrapper (not only libavcodec). Did you actually look at the codebase before saying things like this? Then, VLC developers have worked on libavcodec, like for DxVA2 acceleration, and have been telling people to add codecs inside libavcodec, and not directly VLC. > there was a trend to accept the praise without coming out Where did you see that "trend" ? Finally, I don't see what your work is on FFmpeg or other such libraries.

Locke1689 16y ago
Edit: You know what, just disregard my first comment. It's mostly me being bitter and isn't productive at all. The solution is to have the projects work better together, not whine about who deserves the most credit. I apologize, you're right. I actually went back to look at it and it was all non-VLC people misrepresenting FFmpeg and VLC. Then, the UI/UX part of VLC is around 1/30th of the VLC codebase (not counting external libraries) and most of the code is demuxers, decoders, protocol handlers (all custom), video outputs, video filter, clock, audio filters and libraries wrapper (not only libavcodec). I didn't mean to say that VLC doesn't do anything important, I just felt that FFmpeg gets less credit than it deserves because it is less user-facing. As to the codebase and FFMpeg contributions: I actually have a patch sitting around that makes substantial bug fixes and improvements to the OS X VLC. Part of this was a result of my work in FFMpeg improving crash and corruption resilience. I wouldn't have worked on this if I didn't feel that VLC is a good project, so I apologize if you thought my comment misrepresented the project or the developers. It was simply meant to express a general frustration at the lack of recognition of FFMpeg developers.
- jbk 16y ago
  Apologies accepted :D We've tried to give more FFmpeg visibility, by adding badges to ffmpeg.org from our website (but this is on hold, because of the fork and the logo dispute), and we've reworked our about:box to show it more... But, the truth is that the actual reason we want to find a business model for VLC is that we want to pay FFmpeg developers to work on FFmpeg. If you have patches for VLC on OSX, please share, we need help on the OSX version of VLC.
  - Locke1689 16y ago
    If you have patches for VLC on OSX, please share, we need help on the OSX version of VLC. It's complicated, but I'll try to talk with you out-of-band on this soon. Lately it seems like I have out of date patches just piling up all over my system for every project under the sun.

by jbk 16y ago

Locke1689 16y ago

Edit: You know what, just disregard my first comment. It's mostly me being bitter and isn't productive at all. The solution is to have the projects work better together, not whine about who deserves the most credit. I apologize, you're right. I actually went back to look at it and it was all non-VLC people misrepresenting FFmpeg and VLC. Then, the UI/UX part of VLC is around 1/30th of the VLC codebase (not counting external libraries) and most of the code is demuxers, decoders, protocol handlers (all custom), video outputs, video filter, clock, audio filters and libraries wrapper (not only libavcodec). I didn't mean to say that VLC doesn't do anything important, I just felt that FFmpeg gets less credit than it deserves because it is less user-facing. As to the codebase and FFMpeg contributions: I actually have a patch sitting around that makes substantial bug fixes and improvements to the OS X VLC. Part of this was a result of my work in FFMpeg improving crash and corruption resilience. I wouldn't have worked on this if I didn't feel that VLC is a good project, so I apologize if you thought my comment misrepresented the project or the developers. It was simply meant to express a general frustration at the lack of recognition of FFMpeg developers.

jbk 16y ago
Apologies accepted :D We've tried to give more FFmpeg visibility, by adding badges to ffmpeg.org from our website (but this is on hold, because of the fork and the logo dispute), and we've reworked our about:box to show it more... But, the truth is that the actual reason we want to find a business model for VLC is that we want to pay FFmpeg developers to work on FFmpeg. If you have patches for VLC on OSX, please share, we need help on the OSX version of VLC.
- Locke1689 16y ago
  If you have patches for VLC on OSX, please share, we need help on the OSX version of VLC. It's complicated, but I'll try to talk with you out-of-band on this soon. Lately it seems like I have out of date patches just piling up all over my system for every project under the sun.