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The fact there is a global pandemic going on that requires the cooperation of virtually everyone is important context here. Meanwhile, YouTube does little mode

by zumu 6y ago

The fact there is a global pandemic going on that requires the cooperation of virtually everyone is important context here. Meanwhile, YouTube does little moderation of zany philosophical, conspiratorial, or otherwise disruptive, unconventional content. The ideas of Galieo, Socrates, Jesus etc. fall into this category. That is to say those figures did not promote public health opinions that undermined a global cooperative effort in a time of crisis. I don't agree with censorship, but your analogy is off base.

javagram 6y ago
> That is to say those figures did not promote public health opinions that undermined a global cooperative effort in a time of crisis. I think the figures running the Inquisition and the counter-reformation at the time of Galileo might have disagreed. Remember the 30 Years War was also ongoing from 1618-1648 during the whole time, a Catholic-Protestant religious conflict that engulfed all of Europe and resulted in 8 million deaths. Bucking the authority of the Church/inquisition at that time was seen as a serious issue against social order in a way that’s hard for us to understand from a modern perspective. BTW, I strongly disagree with the this video, but really not sure if YouTube removing it is the right way to do this or will be effective in suppressing virus truthers.
- zumu 6y ago
  True, but Galileo's work was not a direct commentary on said crisis (30 Years War). On the other hand, this "professor" is presenting an analysis of an ongoing crisis and suggesting concrete actions on how it should be handled. > Bucking the authority of the Church/inquisition at that time was seen as a serious issue against social order in a way that’s hard for us to understand from a modern perspective. Exactly my point. You can criticize the powers and be and the social order today with impunity on YouTube.
xamuel 6y ago
>The ideas of Galieo, Socrates, Jesus etc. fall into this category. That is to say those figures did not promote public health opinions that undermined a global cooperative effort in a time of crisis. Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, "Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They do not wash their hands before they eat." (...) Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, "Listen and understand. A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it. (...) For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, and slander. These are what defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile him." (Matthew 15:1-2, 10-11, 19-20)
- zumu 6y ago
  While that may be construed as relating to public health, that is not evidence of a global crisis nor coordinated response to said crisis.

by zumu 6y ago

javagram 6y ago

> That is to say those figures did not promote public health opinions that undermined a global cooperative effort in a time of crisis. I think the figures running the Inquisition and the counter-reformation at the time of Galileo might have disagreed. Remember the 30 Years War was also ongoing from 1618-1648 during the whole time, a Catholic-Protestant religious conflict that engulfed all of Europe and resulted in 8 million deaths. Bucking the authority of the Church/inquisition at that time was seen as a serious issue against social order in a way that’s hard for us to understand from a modern perspective. BTW, I strongly disagree with the this video, but really not sure if YouTube removing it is the right way to do this or will be effective in suppressing virus truthers.

zumu 6y ago
True, but Galileo's work was not a direct commentary on said crisis (30 Years War). On the other hand, this "professor" is presenting an analysis of an ongoing crisis and suggesting concrete actions on how it should be handled. > Bucking the authority of the Church/inquisition at that time was seen as a serious issue against social order in a way that’s hard for us to understand from a modern perspective. Exactly my point. You can criticize the powers and be and the social order today with impunity on YouTube.

xamuel 6y ago

>The ideas of Galieo, Socrates, Jesus etc. fall into this category. That is to say those figures did not promote public health opinions that undermined a global cooperative effort in a time of crisis. Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, "Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They do not wash their hands before they eat." (...) Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, "Listen and understand. A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it. (...) For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, and slander. These are what defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile him." (Matthew 15:1-2, 10-11, 19-20)

zumu 6y ago
While that may be construed as relating to public health, that is not evidence of a global crisis nor coordinated response to said crisis.