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How does this work? If a dude flies to Jamaica with these papers then Jamaica can own HK? Are those, like, bearer shares?

by aasasd 6y ago

hker 6y ago
The Britain signed the treaties with the Qing government (the last dynasty in China until 1912), and the bearer shares of the treaties were brought to Taiwan by the KMT government before 1950. So the issue is: who represents China? The government in Beijing or the government in Taipei? Later, Britain signed the Sino–British Joint Declaration of 1984 with Beijing to decide the (then) future of Hong Kong. If the Sino–British Joint Declaration is revoked, things could be different. Just recently US is asking the Beijing government to repay the debt of Qing dynasty [1], which Beijing said would be the responsibility of Taiwan. Following this logic, receiving Hong Kong from Britain could also be the responsibility of Taiwan. [1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/trump-s-new-trade-war-weapon-might-just-be-antique-china-debt https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/trump-s-n...
- free_rms 6y ago
  That article is amazing. I figured Trump was just shit stirring, I should have known he'd have a relationship with people who've been trading in that debt. Since 2001! There's a century of this debt getting rolled over to greater fools.
ngcc_hk 6y ago
The Taiwan still claim mainland and they are at civil war still. Well, Hk technically belong to Taiwan. Having said that one must note Taiwan has a law in the pipeline (1st reading) to give up The claim of mainland. You may be surprise Of communist china Actual objection To it But not HKER or Taiwanese. In any case Even if they keep the claim This path is Only valid In theory but frankly not in Practice. Personally i will continue our fight. Taiwan has enough of their own problems. If they can free from mainland, That is great already.

How does this work? If a dude flies to Jamaica with these papers then Jamaica can own HK? Are those, like, bearer shares?

by aasasd 6y ago

How does this work? If a dude flies to Jamaica with these papers then Jamaica can own HK? Are those, like, bearer shares?

hker 6y ago

The Britain signed the treaties with the Qing government (the last dynasty in China until 1912), and the bearer shares of the treaties were brought to Taiwan by the KMT government before 1950. So the issue is: who represents China? The government in Beijing or the government in Taipei? Later, Britain signed the Sino–British Joint Declaration of 1984 with Beijing to decide the (then) future of Hong Kong. If the Sino–British Joint Declaration is revoked, things could be different. Just recently US is asking the Beijing government to repay the debt of Qing dynasty [1], which Beijing said would be the responsibility of Taiwan. Following this logic, receiving Hong Kong from Britain could also be the responsibility of Taiwan. [1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/trump-s-new-trade-war-weapon-might-just-be-antique-china-debt https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/trump-s-n...

free_rms 6y ago
That article is amazing. I figured Trump was just shit stirring, I should have known he'd have a relationship with people who've been trading in that debt. Since 2001! There's a century of this debt getting rolled over to greater fools.

ngcc_hk 6y ago

The Taiwan still claim mainland and they are at civil war still. Well, Hk technically belong to Taiwan. Having said that one must note Taiwan has a law in the pipeline (1st reading) to give up The claim of mainland. You may be surprise Of communist china Actual objection To it But not HKER or Taiwanese. In any case Even if they keep the claim This path is Only valid In theory but frankly not in Practice. Personally i will continue our fight. Taiwan has enough of their own problems. If they can free from mainland, That is great already.