> If not governmental, maybe an organization around this could be made by developers themselves. These exist. The ACM and IEEE CS are best-known, but there are

> If not governmental, maybe an organization around this could be made by developers themselves. These exist. The ACM and IEEE CS are best-known, but there are also various national bodies (ACS in Australia, BCS in the UK etc). > Not the "certified for $technology" certifications we have now, but a certification of fundamental software engineering skills and principles. The IEEE Computer Society has such a thing, maintained in various forms since about 2002[0]. The ACM and IEEE CS also publish a software engineering curriculum that they are prepared to recognise[1]. They also have a jointly-published Code of Ethics[2]. I sincerely agree with you that our profession is mostly a disaster area. But one thing other professions have that we lack is (1) fairly worked-out fundamental theoretical bases, or at least long experience to draw on, and (2) legal enforcement of standards. [0] https://www.computer.org/education/certifications https://www.computer.org/education/certifications [1] https://www.acm.org/education/curricula-recommendations https://www.acm.org/education/curricula-recommendations [2] https://ethics.acm.org/code-of-ethics/software-engineering-code/ https://ethics.acm.org/code-of-ethics/software-engineering-c...