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> Make no mistake,the CCP has no intention of being self-contained, if you are not with them,you are against them. Their intention is hostile. One country _mig

> Make no mistake,the CCP has no intention of being self-contained, if you are not with them,you are against them. Their intention is hostile. One country _might_ think that. One country right out proclaimed it. "You are either with us or against us." - George Bush

badrabbit 6y ago
Bush was 100% correct, you either support the war against al-qaeda or you support it. Indifference means terrorists can use your country/resources, being hostile to them means you're "with" america. It doesn't mean you support everything America does,it just means you support the need to combat terrorism.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  You know? That thing wasn't born by itself from the virginity of Holy Mother Mary, but instead enabled by the fu..... err messing around of the Cocaine Import Agency & Co. in internal and external affairs of other sovereign countries since decades. Seems the world police man is too lazy to clean its own shit up?
  - badrabbit 6y ago
    Not at all, you seem to be missing a lot of historical context here. The cold war was a thing,as was WW2. You should be happy the US played world cop else it would be russia and china playing world ruler. You are extremely misinformed, the US was superbly pissed off at 9/11 but Al-qaeda terrorized europe,africa, SE asia and even china. They declared a "holy" war and used that pretext to attack the US and anyone supporting the US or Israel. The CIA are pretty terrible ,but hey..why not compare them with the KGB and ex-soviet states? How about modern russia and it's treatment of it's neighbors , straight up invading countries on a whim and annexing their territory. You should check out how they toppled Ukraine's entire government before the current one also because they're using that playbook against trump. Let's compare apples to apples, you can disagree with US policy just fine without claiming the world would be a better place without their intervention policy. Also,FYI, the pretext of interventionism is WW2, you know,how if someone say toppled Nazis or Mussolini before they went out of hand hundreds of millions of lives could be saved? A 3rd world country falling for say Russia or China (even by proxy) means Russia or China will play economic or direct warfare which will lead into a bay of pigs type of a stand off where either you let you let them point a nuclear gun to your head and hope they don't shoot or you stand by and let them invade your allies. Oh and which world policing are you talking about? The serbian genocide? Because US lead but it was NATO just like afghanistan,so it was more like NATO policing. It's ridiculous that you expect the US or any major power to not attempt to interfere in other countries politics to have an outcome that benefits their country. Every country including UK,Germany,Netherlands,France,China,India,Vietnam and Russia do this, they just don't try and succeed as much as the US.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
      I don't care much about narratives of one sort or another, because of the impossibilty to verify them as eiter thruth, or fiction with my resources. I pick them like i see fit, just like you do too. Repeating one over and over again doesn't make it more true than any other. I'll give you one i particularly enjoy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art,_Truth_and_Politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art,_Truth_and_Politics Transcript: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2005/pinter/25621-harold-pinter-nobel-lecture-2005/ https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2005/pinter/256...

badrabbit 6y ago

Bush was 100% correct, you either support the war against al-qaeda or you support it. Indifference means terrorists can use your country/resources, being hostile to them means you're "with" america. It doesn't mean you support everything America does,it just means you support the need to combat terrorism.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
You know? That thing wasn't born by itself from the virginity of Holy Mother Mary, but instead enabled by the fu..... err messing around of the Cocaine Import Agency & Co. in internal and external affairs of other sovereign countries since decades. Seems the world police man is too lazy to clean its own shit up?
- badrabbit 6y ago
  Not at all, you seem to be missing a lot of historical context here. The cold war was a thing,as was WW2. You should be happy the US played world cop else it would be russia and china playing world ruler. You are extremely misinformed, the US was superbly pissed off at 9/11 but Al-qaeda terrorized europe,africa, SE asia and even china. They declared a "holy" war and used that pretext to attack the US and anyone supporting the US or Israel. The CIA are pretty terrible ,but hey..why not compare them with the KGB and ex-soviet states? How about modern russia and it's treatment of it's neighbors , straight up invading countries on a whim and annexing their territory. You should check out how they toppled Ukraine's entire government before the current one also because they're using that playbook against trump. Let's compare apples to apples, you can disagree with US policy just fine without claiming the world would be a better place without their intervention policy. Also,FYI, the pretext of interventionism is WW2, you know,how if someone say toppled Nazis or Mussolini before they went out of hand hundreds of millions of lives could be saved? A 3rd world country falling for say Russia or China (even by proxy) means Russia or China will play economic or direct warfare which will lead into a bay of pigs type of a stand off where either you let you let them point a nuclear gun to your head and hope they don't shoot or you stand by and let them invade your allies. Oh and which world policing are you talking about? The serbian genocide? Because US lead but it was NATO just like afghanistan,so it was more like NATO policing. It's ridiculous that you expect the US or any major power to not attempt to interfere in other countries politics to have an outcome that benefits their country. Every country including UK,Germany,Netherlands,France,China,India,Vietnam and Russia do this, they just don't try and succeed as much as the US.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
    I don't care much about narratives of one sort or another, because of the impossibilty to verify them as eiter thruth, or fiction with my resources. I pick them like i see fit, just like you do too. Repeating one over and over again doesn't make it more true than any other. I'll give you one i particularly enjoy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art,_Truth_and_Politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art,_Truth_and_Politics Transcript: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2005/pinter/25621-harold-pinter-nobel-lecture-2005/ https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2005/pinter/256...