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Electrocutions, banana-slipping, fork-stabbing and ladder-falling down as forced self-imprisonment into madhouse soft-rooms reduces stupid domestic accidents.

Electrocutions, banana-slipping, fork-stabbing and ladder-falling down as forced self-imprisonment into madhouse soft-rooms reduces stupid domestic accidents. Meanwhile in Russia, approx. 3000 people are reported to die of corona in 5 months. In 2019, 16'900 died in road accidents. That gives approx. 7000 in 5 months. Which is twice as many, but I can't remember anyone locking down the roads, scanning QR codes in order to unlock the car or zealously repeating the NEW NORMAL, THE WORLD HAVE CHANGED mantra out of every hole. Heck, neither can I remember anyone constructing concrete barriers instead of purely nominal double center lines between adjacent opposite lanes where possible!

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
But are traffic accidents contagious? We're at 10% infection now. What will 50% look like? Its cute to deliberately conflate dissimilar things. Corona is different among mortality statistics in that, everybody can be at risk if we're not careful.
- 7leafer 6y ago
  But do you subscribe for an accident or a non-contagious disease at some kind of Public Terminal of Fate? 3000 dying of tuberculosis every day, did they subscribe for such a death? Well if nobody subscribes for death, why are people still mortal?
- 7leafer 6y ago
  A relative of mine works at the central hospital in my city. She's been seeing with her very eyes that the department of infections is empty since the circus began. People with infections other than corona are sent home to cope or die, because empty beds are reserved for corona. Explain, please. And also explain by what magic the U07.2 in death certificates is transmuting into U07.1 for the news and statistics. If you don't know what that means, lookup the WHO's disease IDs.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    > And also explain by what magic the U07.2 in death certificates is transmuting into U07.1 for the news and statistics. https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/covid19/en/ https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/covid19/en/ "U07.2 COVID-19, virus not identified" changes to "U07.1 COVID-19, virus identified" presumably when the test results come back. Probable cases versus confirmed cases. It's not magic, it's pretty obvious.
    - 7leafer 6y ago
      It's when relatives of the deceased are bribed to sign an agreement to turn 2 into 1. Without 'presumably'.
      - ceejayoz 6y ago
        Bribed by the lizard shapeshifters, I take it?
        7leafer 6y ago
        Quit listening to Ike and other masters of DBA, my friend, or go gaslight someone else and don't make yourself look stupid. They are bribed by humans of flesh and bones.
        ceejayoz 6y ago
        That's exactly what someone who's been bribed by the lizard shapeshifters would say.
        deleted 6y ago
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        7leafer 6y ago
        No, it's bears and butterflies all the way.
- bagacrap 6y ago
  Everyone can be at risk of dying from cv? no, for a young healthy person the risk is similar to shark attack or lightning strike. However everyone is at risk of dying in traffic accidents, even if they never get in a car.
  - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
    Yes, but the point is CV19 is only just beginning, and already its rivalling the largest risk Americans face. Where will it peak? 2X? 3X?
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  They are until we have driverless cars, because we teach the next generation this dangerous behavior. I.e. it is institutionally contagious.
HelloMcFly 6y ago
First: I have no reason to trust Russia's reporting on their COVID statistics. Nevertheless, Russia probably should enact more road safety measures had they the resources to enforce them because Russia's road fatality rate is among the worst of developed nations in the world. All that aside: road accident deaths aren't contagious. They happen and they are done. There is no possibility of [exponential] community spread, I don't have to worry about infecting my grandmother, your grandmother via you, or the immuno-compromised children my wife cares for in the hospital.
- 7leafer 6y ago
  Of your deceased relatives, may them rest in peace, did anyone consciously choose the way to die? If not, why did they die? Because they wanted to? Because they didn't resort to drastic counter-measures? My grandfather died of electrocution in 1996. Would he be still alive today, given that he was born in 1927, if he would meticulously scrutinize every millimeter of electric cords he ever touched for potential cracks?
  - HelloMcFly 6y ago
    Bad faith arguments all around. There's a clear difference between isolated events and those that possess the ability for exponential community spread. I'm not inclined to debate it further.
    - 7leafer 6y ago
      I'm not debating with you. I'm writing this for the occasional sane people coming across this thread who rely on facts and not on the fear of possibilities. For those, a question: if, as they say, the exponential growth is kept at bay by the drastic lock-downs, why haven't Sweden and Belarus die out completely yet? Or Russia, where, I can tell you for sure, most people recognize that this is a staged event to make the wealthy wealthier and the poor poorer and to impose modern slavery and technofascism? Where is that deadly exponential growth being bleated about so hard since January?
whatshisface 6y ago
>Meanwhile in Russia, approx. 3000 people are reported to die of corona in 5 months. Yesterday I got a great deal with a loan shark. He gave me $10 at 540×10¹⁴% annual interest. Everyone is acting like this is a big mistake, but today I only owe him $11. Why all the fuss?
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  You really do encounter people who think like this with their finances.
dustincoates 6y ago
I've seen this a lot online and I can understand the appeal, but it's also misguided. (I'm not all doom and gloom, I believe there's no need for total lockdown until a vaccine.) Simply we don't know exactly how many people have died of coronavirus right now because it's hard to separate out sometimes what the cause of death is. We DO know, however, how many more people are dying than generally die this time of year. It's a lot more. In England and Wales, it's 52% more while in Belgium 60% more. You can read more here: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/covid-19-death-toll-misleading-all-cause-mortality-excess-deaths-pandemic/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/covid-19-death-toll-m...

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

But are traffic accidents contagious? We're at 10% infection now. What will 50% look like? Its cute to deliberately conflate dissimilar things. Corona is different among mortality statistics in that, everybody can be at risk if we're not careful.

7leafer 6y ago
But do you subscribe for an accident or a non-contagious disease at some kind of Public Terminal of Fate? 3000 dying of tuberculosis every day, did they subscribe for such a death? Well if nobody subscribes for death, why are people still mortal?
7leafer 6y ago
A relative of mine works at the central hospital in my city. She's been seeing with her very eyes that the department of infections is empty since the circus began. People with infections other than corona are sent home to cope or die, because empty beds are reserved for corona. Explain, please. And also explain by what magic the U07.2 in death certificates is transmuting into U07.1 for the news and statistics. If you don't know what that means, lookup the WHO's disease IDs.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  > And also explain by what magic the U07.2 in death certificates is transmuting into U07.1 for the news and statistics. https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/covid19/en/ https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/covid19/en/ "U07.2 COVID-19, virus not identified" changes to "U07.1 COVID-19, virus identified" presumably when the test results come back. Probable cases versus confirmed cases. It's not magic, it's pretty obvious.
  - 7leafer 6y ago
    It's when relatives of the deceased are bribed to sign an agreement to turn 2 into 1. Without 'presumably'.
    - ceejayoz 6y ago
      Bribed by the lizard shapeshifters, I take it?
      - 7leafer 6y ago
        Quit listening to Ike and other masters of DBA, my friend, or go gaslight someone else and don't make yourself look stupid. They are bribed by humans of flesh and bones.
        ceejayoz 6y ago
        That's exactly what someone who's been bribed by the lizard shapeshifters would say.
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
        7leafer 6y ago
        No, it's bears and butterflies all the way.
bagacrap 6y ago
Everyone can be at risk of dying from cv? no, for a young healthy person the risk is similar to shark attack or lightning strike. However everyone is at risk of dying in traffic accidents, even if they never get in a car.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  Yes, but the point is CV19 is only just beginning, and already its rivalling the largest risk Americans face. Where will it peak? 2X? 3X?
mensetmanusman 6y ago
They are until we have driverless cars, because we teach the next generation this dangerous behavior. I.e. it is institutionally contagious.

HelloMcFly 6y ago

First: I have no reason to trust Russia's reporting on their COVID statistics. Nevertheless, Russia probably should enact more road safety measures had they the resources to enforce them because Russia's road fatality rate is among the worst of developed nations in the world. All that aside: road accident deaths aren't contagious. They happen and they are done. There is no possibility of [exponential] community spread, I don't have to worry about infecting my grandmother, your grandmother via you, or the immuno-compromised children my wife cares for in the hospital.

7leafer 6y ago
Of your deceased relatives, may them rest in peace, did anyone consciously choose the way to die? If not, why did they die? Because they wanted to? Because they didn't resort to drastic counter-measures? My grandfather died of electrocution in 1996. Would he be still alive today, given that he was born in 1927, if he would meticulously scrutinize every millimeter of electric cords he ever touched for potential cracks?
- HelloMcFly 6y ago
  Bad faith arguments all around. There's a clear difference between isolated events and those that possess the ability for exponential community spread. I'm not inclined to debate it further.
  - 7leafer 6y ago
    I'm not debating with you. I'm writing this for the occasional sane people coming across this thread who rely on facts and not on the fear of possibilities. For those, a question: if, as they say, the exponential growth is kept at bay by the drastic lock-downs, why haven't Sweden and Belarus die out completely yet? Or Russia, where, I can tell you for sure, most people recognize that this is a staged event to make the wealthy wealthier and the poor poorer and to impose modern slavery and technofascism? Where is that deadly exponential growth being bleated about so hard since January?

whatshisface 6y ago

>Meanwhile in Russia, approx. 3000 people are reported to die of corona in 5 months. Yesterday I got a great deal with a loan shark. He gave me $10 at 540×10¹⁴% annual interest. Everyone is acting like this is a big mistake, but today I only owe him $11. Why all the fuss?

MattGaiser 6y ago
You really do encounter people who think like this with their finances.

dustincoates 6y ago

I've seen this a lot online and I can understand the appeal, but it's also misguided. (I'm not all doom and gloom, I believe there's no need for total lockdown until a vaccine.) Simply we don't know exactly how many people have died of coronavirus right now because it's hard to separate out sometimes what the cause of death is. We DO know, however, how many more people are dying than generally die this time of year. It's a lot more. In England and Wales, it's 52% more while in Belgium 60% more. You can read more here: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/covid-19-death-toll-misleading-all-cause-mortality-excess-deaths-pandemic/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/covid-19-death-toll-m...