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It's not, but that doesn't make it legal.

by jylam 6y ago

throwaway2048 6y ago
It also doesn't make G2A "A black market for software". G2A is fundamentally a consumer empowering type of market/organization, businesses who sell keys do not want their completely legitimately purchased keys resold, and if you don't think they are going to stoop to painting the people who enable that as horrible monsters, you have ignored the entire history of markets and PR. G2A has a standing offer to pay devs 10x what any fraudulently obtained keys cost them, and they are making good on that offer here, the fact they are still being treated like some kind of mafia-esque organization in these comments says a lot about the power of PR. Remember when the RIAA was coming out about the evils of used CDs and was asking congress to make their resale illegal? We are at that point right now with digital goods, with the majority of people cheering on this blatantly anti-consumer bullshit and painting those that enable fighting it as scumbags
- falcolas 6y ago
  That standing offer is no longer a standing offer now that they've proven that they are re-selling stolen keys. Now they simply (and appropriately) offer to repay proven fraudulent keys and chargeback fees. G2A doesn't get much good press because many people empathize with indy games devs, and prior to this finding G2A loudly and broadly claimed that there were not stolen keys being sold through their storefront.
  - throwaway2048 6y ago
    Do you think Ebay is free of stolen goods and illegal credit card transactions? G2A works exactly like Ebay does, and I don't see much hand wringing about how we need to shut down the scum at Ebay, for the children.
    - hxegon 6y ago
      So you think because sometimes ebay listings are stolen goods that G2A selling stolen goods is fine, gotcha. Seriously what is your point here.
      - throwaway2048 6y ago
        Its not fine, but its also completely impossible for G2A and ebay to fully avoid, because both are marketplaces. What matters is how they address it, and that is being completely ignored in these comments in favor of vague moralizing about the evils of consumer choice.

It's not, but that doesn't make it legal.

by jylam 6y ago

It's not, but that doesn't make it legal.

throwaway2048 6y ago

It also doesn't make G2A "A black market for software". G2A is fundamentally a consumer empowering type of market/organization, businesses who sell keys do not want their completely legitimately purchased keys resold, and if you don't think they are going to stoop to painting the people who enable that as horrible monsters, you have ignored the entire history of markets and PR. G2A has a standing offer to pay devs 10x what any fraudulently obtained keys cost them, and they are making good on that offer here, the fact they are still being treated like some kind of mafia-esque organization in these comments says a lot about the power of PR. Remember when the RIAA was coming out about the evils of used CDs and was asking congress to make their resale illegal? We are at that point right now with digital goods, with the majority of people cheering on this blatantly anti-consumer bullshit and painting those that enable fighting it as scumbags

falcolas 6y ago
That standing offer is no longer a standing offer now that they've proven that they are re-selling stolen keys. Now they simply (and appropriately) offer to repay proven fraudulent keys and chargeback fees. G2A doesn't get much good press because many people empathize with indy games devs, and prior to this finding G2A loudly and broadly claimed that there were not stolen keys being sold through their storefront.
- throwaway2048 6y ago
  Do you think Ebay is free of stolen goods and illegal credit card transactions? G2A works exactly like Ebay does, and I don't see much hand wringing about how we need to shut down the scum at Ebay, for the children.
  - hxegon 6y ago
    So you think because sometimes ebay listings are stolen goods that G2A selling stolen goods is fine, gotcha. Seriously what is your point here.
    - throwaway2048 6y ago
      Its not fine, but its also completely impossible for G2A and ebay to fully avoid, because both are marketplaces. What matters is how they address it, and that is being completely ignored in these comments in favor of vague moralizing about the evils of consumer choice.