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? I am confused by this remark.. here in the US farmers are some of the poorest people in the country. Their land is nothing more than a burden and they live at

by Vysero 6y ago

? I am confused by this remark.. here in the US farmers are some of the poorest people in the country. Their land is nothing more than a burden and they live at or near poverty levels.

balfirevic 6y ago
Surely they must be strictly better off than not owning any land?
- Vysero 6y ago
  You think so? Have you ever tried farming before? It's a rough life, and they never make money; they live off subsidies. When you own land you have to care for it and that costs: money, time and a substantial amount of effort. Most farmers I know would love to sell, but there is no one willing/able to buy.
  - balfirevic 6y ago
    Can they give it away? Can they let it go unmaintained?
    - Vysero 6y ago
      If you had a plot of land worth millions would you give it away? No, they can't let it go unmaintained that's illegal.
      - balfirevic 6y ago
        >> Surely they must be strictly better off than not owning any land? > If you had a plot of land worth millions would you give it away? WTF is happening in this conversation.
        Vysero 6y ago
        What is happening is that your being naive. You are attempting to paint a colorful situation with black and white. This is not a boolean if statement. You're wondering why wouldn't these farmers just walk away from their farm? Well there are many reasons: It's been in their family for generations. It's all they know how to do. They have legal obligations. The land may be worth millions but if all the buyers are aware of the fact that it's not worth buying then all those $$'s just mean you can take another loan out against it; which is better than parting with it for nothing. How about instead of asking questions you go do some research. I am not a farmer I just know a lot of farmers and they all drive old shitty cars and can't afford to get pay for their mothers dialysis.

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? I am confused by this remark.. here in the US farmers are some of the poorest people in the country. Their land is nothing more than a burden and they live at

by Vysero 6y ago

? I am confused by this remark.. here in the US farmers are some of the poorest people in the country. Their land is nothing more than a burden and they live at or near poverty levels.

balfirevic 6y ago
Surely they must be strictly better off than not owning any land?
- Vysero 6y ago
  You think so? Have you ever tried farming before? It's a rough life, and they never make money; they live off subsidies. When you own land you have to care for it and that costs: money, time and a substantial amount of effort. Most farmers I know would love to sell, but there is no one willing/able to buy.
  - balfirevic 6y ago
    Can they give it away? Can they let it go unmaintained?
    - Vysero 6y ago
      If you had a plot of land worth millions would you give it away? No, they can't let it go unmaintained that's illegal.
      - balfirevic 6y ago
        >> Surely they must be strictly better off than not owning any land? > If you had a plot of land worth millions would you give it away? WTF is happening in this conversation.
        Vysero 6y ago
        What is happening is that your being naive. You are attempting to paint a colorful situation with black and white. This is not a boolean if statement. You're wondering why wouldn't these farmers just walk away from their farm? Well there are many reasons: It's been in their family for generations. It's all they know how to do. They have legal obligations. The land may be worth millions but if all the buyers are aware of the fact that it's not worth buying then all those $$'s just mean you can take another loan out against it; which is better than parting with it for nothing. How about instead of asking questions you go do some research. I am not a farmer I just know a lot of farmers and they all drive old shitty cars and can't afford to get pay for their mothers dialysis.