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I'm very curious about collaboration in the equation. In the US we have things like github. You have open source via linux and organizations like Apache, etc. W
by malandrew 6y ago
I'm very curious about collaboration in the equation. In the US we have things like github. You have open source via linux and organizations like Apache, etc. What about the role of standards bodies like the IETF or W3C and industry specific standards bodies. China has none of these.
If one reads Anna Lee Saxenians "Cultural Advantage" and the "New Argonauts", you see a lot more missing pieces that are hard to replicate and cultural.
Even in the US, Route 128 was usurped by the culture from the SF Bay Area, which has spread to Seattle, Austin and NYC, but at the end of the day these markets are all extensions of the SF Bay Area not challengers presenting a new model detached from SF Bay Area culture, money and networks. Even strong international markets like Taiwan and Israel are extensions of the SF Bay Area.
I also would not discount the fact that all tech that matters globally ultimately is written by engineers communicating in English regardless of what country the engineer is from or resides in. That goes a LONG way to establishing tech dominance in the US. China would have to de facto move all its tech even within its borders to English first if they want to usurp that. Not that English guarantees success (see England and other English speaking countries), but it's absolutely a barrier for non-english speaking countries. Every programming language that matters has keywords in English and all the best learning materials are in English. Same for all other tech and science that matters outside of programming as well. All English.
- zozbot234 6y ago> China has none of these. This seems like FUD. Like it or not, China has made key contributions to industry standards including 5G.
- malandrew 6y agoWhich of those contributions are in Chinese and are controlled by China? I didn't say China wouldn't contribute. Chinese people have and they will. Just like people from many nations. And like people from many nations, they will contribute to things that extend the dominance of western institutions. After all the ITU is based in Geneva. I'm not even from the US or Europe yet all my engineering contributions are here in the US. None of my contributions do anything for the country I'm from.
- ponker 6y agoWhat exactly do you mean by “Taiwan and Israel are extensions of the SF Bay Area”? What makes them so as opposed to anywhere else that based on a tech economy which will naturally need to interact a lot with SF the same way that the financial industry in any city needs to interact with New York and London a lot?