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> America attracts top talent from all around the world. The current administration seems to be trying hard to change this via travel bans etc. The one actuall

by klipt 6y ago

> America attracts top talent from all around the world. The current administration seems to be trying hard to change this via travel bans etc. The one actually good idea that Trump floated in his campaign was meritocratic points based immigration ala Canada, but it seems that topic got dropped in favor of more attention drawing stunts like the border wall. > technology investment funds being used to further inflate the property bubble in disguise Same thing in Silicon Valley, and to a lesser extent many other US cities with good tech jobs.

malandrew 6y ago
> meritocratic points based immigration this is one of the main ideas that Ted Cruz has promoted.
- raducu 6y ago
  Like China's social credit system, but for immigrants?
  - klipt 6y ago
    No, like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Entry#Economic_value_versus_"first-come_first-served" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Entry#Economic_value_v...
0xFFC 6y ago
I was applying for PhD in CS in 2017, I changed my destination from USA to Canada specifically because of Trump. Although job prospect is way better in USA, I will never ever come to a country where they don’t treat me right. (I am talking about government and policies. I don’t have any problem with Americans actually and gave quite a lot of American friends). By not treating me right I am talking about for example: 1) At that time they were talking about imposing tax for graduate students. That could have had devastating effect on grad student life. 2) Right now they are talking about removing OPT.
dannyw 6y ago
I think it’s unsubstantiated to claim that travel bans on select Middle eastern countries have reduced talented immigration to America. Employment based immigration has been up year on year for the past 5 years: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2019AnnualReport/FY19AnnualReport-%20TableII.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Annual...
- klipt 6y ago
  Well the worst aspects of the travel ban were reversed by the courts, but the initial version that Trump tried to pass would have meant that eg Iranians with green cards who happened to be outside the US when the ban started couldn't return to the US, which obviously would have reduced (even reversed?) talented immigration. Also your link is meaningless because the most common way to get an employment green card is by adjusting status in the US (from eg H1-B status to green card), not by getting an immigrant visa, but that table only counts immigrant visas.

by klipt 6y ago

malandrew 6y ago

> meritocratic points based immigration this is one of the main ideas that Ted Cruz has promoted.

raducu 6y ago
Like China's social credit system, but for immigrants?
- klipt 6y ago
  No, like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Entry#Economic_value_versus_"first-come_first-served" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Entry#Economic_value_v...

0xFFC 6y ago

I was applying for PhD in CS in 2017, I changed my destination from USA to Canada specifically because of Trump. Although job prospect is way better in USA, I will never ever come to a country where they don’t treat me right. (I am talking about government and policies. I don’t have any problem with Americans actually and gave quite a lot of American friends). By not treating me right I am talking about for example: 1) At that time they were talking about imposing tax for graduate students. That could have had devastating effect on grad student life. 2) Right now they are talking about removing OPT.

dannyw 6y ago

I think it’s unsubstantiated to claim that travel bans on select Middle eastern countries have reduced talented immigration to America. Employment based immigration has been up year on year for the past 5 years: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2019AnnualReport/FY19AnnualReport-%20TableII.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Annual...

klipt 6y ago
Well the worst aspects of the travel ban were reversed by the courts, but the initial version that Trump tried to pass would have meant that eg Iranians with green cards who happened to be outside the US when the ban started couldn't return to the US, which obviously would have reduced (even reversed?) talented immigration. Also your link is meaningless because the most common way to get an employment green card is by adjusting status in the US (from eg H1-B status to green card), not by getting an immigrant visa, but that table only counts immigrant visas.