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If you're refusing to be a donor, would you also refuse to accept a transplant if you needed one? Seems only fair

Igelau 6y ago
Your argument might satisfy a peculiar revenge fetish, but in terms of policy, the whole public is only healthier if the WHOLE public is healthier -- even the people you think are wrong. No ifs, ands, buts, or whining about fairness. The recipient's status in the program should be of no interest and strictly private until death. If only participants in the donor program could benefit from the donor program, then people who are ineligible to donate (like under age 18) would be unwilling sacrifices on your altar to Fairness. After all, what are they contributing? Furthermore, if I'm in need of a vital transplant, there's likely enough systemic damage from the malfunctioning organ that the organs I've got are of questionable use as future transplants.
- chimprich 6y ago
  > Your argument might satisfy a peculiar revenge fetish A "peculiar revenge fetish" is strong words considering your argument is so weak. > the whole public is only healthier if the WHOLE public is healthier In general I agree, but this is definitely not an issue with transplants. The demand far exceeds supply, so the question is how you sort the queue. Of course, refusing to be a potential organ donor also affects the health of the WHOLE public. If you refuse to be a donor, the total number of organs available for transplant is reduced. > people who are ineligible to donate (like under age 18) Where did you get the idea that under 18s are not eligible to be donors? I think everyone would agree, though, that under-18s' views would not make them ineligible as recipients. > unwilling sacrifices on your altar to Fairness If it's not them who are getting sacrificed on the Fairness altar, it is someone else who could be a recipient.
  - Igelau 6y ago
    > Where did you get the idea that under 18s are not eligible to be donors? Trolling, or did you just not RTFA?
    - chimprich 6y ago
      https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/who-can-donate/ https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about... "Anyone can register a decision to become an organ donor after death, there is no age limit."

Your argument might satisfy a peculiar revenge fetish, but in terms of policy, the whole public is only healthier if the WHOLE public is healthier -- even the people you think are wrong. No ifs, ands, buts, or whining about fairness. The recipient's status in the program should be of no interest and strictly private until death. If only participants in the donor program could benefit from the donor program, then people who are ineligible to donate (like under age 18) would be unwilling sacrifices on your altar to Fairness. After all, what are they contributing? Furthermore, if I'm in need of a vital transplant, there's likely enough systemic damage from the malfunctioning organ that the organs I've got are of questionable use as future transplants.

chimprich 6y ago
> Your argument might satisfy a peculiar revenge fetish A "peculiar revenge fetish" is strong words considering your argument is so weak. > the whole public is only healthier if the WHOLE public is healthier In general I agree, but this is definitely not an issue with transplants. The demand far exceeds supply, so the question is how you sort the queue. Of course, refusing to be a potential organ donor also affects the health of the WHOLE public. If you refuse to be a donor, the total number of organs available for transplant is reduced. > people who are ineligible to donate (like under age 18) Where did you get the idea that under 18s are not eligible to be donors? I think everyone would agree, though, that under-18s' views would not make them ineligible as recipients. > unwilling sacrifices on your altar to Fairness If it's not them who are getting sacrificed on the Fairness altar, it is someone else who could be a recipient.
- Igelau 6y ago
  > Where did you get the idea that under 18s are not eligible to be donors? Trolling, or did you just not RTFA?
  - chimprich 6y ago
    https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/who-can-donate/ https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about... "Anyone can register a decision to become an organ donor after death, there is no age limit."