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Regardless of what you think about the decision, the communication here has been poor. As of posting, there is no information on BBC News's front page, the UK's
by BlackVanilla 6y ago
Regardless of what you think about the decision, the communication here has been poor. As of posting, there is no information on BBC News's front page, the UK's main source of news, as to this rule change or how to opt-out. [1] Likewise, on the UK Government's website's homepage, there is no information on this or information on how to opt-out. [2]
I haven't come across a friend or family member who knows this is happening today.
Regardless of your view on this, the communication has been poor. It was publicised when Wales moved to opt-out organ donation.
[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
[2] https://www.gov.uk/ https://www.gov.uk/
- ryanmarsh 6y agoUncomfortable news has a way of doing that.
- jonny_eh 6y agoIn this case, the poor communication should result in more lives being saved.
- cameronbrown 6y agoAre you kidding me? People should have the right to make an informed choice, however they feel about it.
- jonny_eh 6y agoDid it ever make the front-page of a paper that you could opt-in? Why was that not a scandal?
- cameronbrown 6y agoIt's widely known that the NHS needs organ doners. That itself is not the issue for me, the new status quo of the state having the right to harvest my organs is. How are targeted ads and Facebook notifications _opt in_, but this isn't??
- jonny_eh 6y ago> It's widely known that the NHS needs organ doners Give it a day or two, and it too will be widely know that you can opt-out, we're discussing this on the HN front-page afterall, clearly this is no secret. Give it a generation and no one will care either.
- wmichelin 6y agoWhat possible incentive could there be to hoard your organs after death?
- read_if_gay_ 6y agoOrgans are worth a lot of money. The wrong incentives may mean you end up pronounced dead when you could’ve lived because someone is collecting a fat check for your organs.
- kjjw 6y agoNot in the UK.
- ekianjo 6y agoWait until you find out later that there is a black market going on in the UK.
- read_if_gay_ 6y agoHow can you be sure? There are even human trafficking rings in first world countries.
- alibaba_x 6y agoIt's not about hoarding organs. If you are an exact match for some wealthy person on a transplant waitlist you might legitimately fear for your safety.
- cameronbrown 6y ago"Hoard"? They're mine to give away, not the state's. For the record, I already opted-in, but this needs to be a choice.
- jonny_eh 6y agoThey're not yours when you're dead. It's no different from your estate. If you don't leave a will, the state decides what to do with what you leave behind.
- tehwebguy 6y agoThey do!
- user982 6y agoBut, following the GP's logic, just imagine how many lives could be saved if they didn't.
- nothal 6y agoI think you can make an argument that people should have the 'right' (is there such a thing as a right held by a nonliving person?) to make an informed choice about their organs but this is certainly an ambiguous situation as to whether or not that right should be given. I personally believe that it would be entirely acceptable if it were not a choice and your organs must be donated (as usable) on death.
- amsl 6y agoOk, so the 100% fascist view is also here now. Sorry, I forgot: We can still leave the country like the Jews in 1933.
- vageli 6y ago> I think you can make an argument that people should have the 'right' (is there such a thing as a right held by a nonliving person?) to make an informed choice about their organs but this is certainly an ambiguous situation as to whether or not that right should be given. I personally believe that it would be entirely acceptable if it were not a choice and your organs must be donated (as usable) on death. So if families don't want the bodies of their loved ones turned over to the state, tough luck? Why does the state have a greater right to my kin than I?
- mantap 6y agoWhat percentage of people refuse to receive a transplant because they disagree with transplantation? It's a tiny number of people. Acceptance of organ transplantation is almost universal outside of religious communities such as jehova's witnesses.
- vageli 6y agoI'm not sure the point you're making. Are you saying that if you would accept an organ transplant you must also be willing to donate your organs upon death? What percentage of people refuse free money?
- i_cannot_hack 6y ago
- DanBC 6y agoThey do have the right to make an informed choice. If you have strong opinions about organ donation you tell your family and tell your doctors.
- mendelmaleh 6y agoYes, just like China's prison programs, save a lot of lives...
- elgenie 6y agoPerhaps there's some other story that's capturing the attention of the health-focused reporters at the BBC and there wasn't during Wales' rollout? Hmm?
- BlackVanilla 6y agoFor sure, but people should be given the information to exercise bodily autonomy. The BBC is a public service broadcaster paid for by TV licence fees, so should aim to inform the UK population about significant issues which impact them. Sure, COVID-19 and its fallout should be reported on, but it should not (and does not need to) cause the absence of this from the homepage.
- crooked-v 6y agoIt seems like the kind of thing that should just have a small informative pamphlet mailed to everyone in the country. It's a relatively cheap, straightforward way to inform everyone.
- BlackVanilla 6y agoI agree, and it's happened before. Very recently, the Prime Minister sent a letter to every household in the UK on the COVID-19 lockdown measures. [1] This would be less intensive, as it would go to all households in England, not the whole UK. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pm-letter-to-nation-on-coronavirus https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pm-letter-to-nati...
- fmajid 6y agoSince England is nearly 85% of the UK, it really doesn’t make that much of a difference.
- chosenbreed37 6y agoIt's not coming as surprise though. Is it? If I recall correctly it was announced a while ago but only just coming into effect now.
- ekianjo 6y agoIt shows how reliable "government owned media" can be even in democracies.
- OnuRC 6y agoExcept they're also "constitutional monarchy" so there is that.