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> It helps to reframe the issue. "Selling" yourself is distasteful for many, because it smacks not only of loudness & brashness, but of straight up lying. But
by amznthrowaway5 6y ago
> It helps to reframe the issue. "Selling" yourself is distasteful for many, because it smacks not only of loudness & brashness, but of straight up lying.
But a lot of people who get the promotions and funding are straight up lying. Selling yourself is distasteful because you can't compete with the dishonest, you don't want to play that game.
- MattGaiser 6y agoI rarely see lying, but you can get pretty much the same result with selective word choice and hand waving. Going from 500 words to 30 means a loss of resolution. Just make more of the words positive and you can greatly mislead.
- amznthrowaway5 6y agoGreatly misleading or lying by omission isn’t much better than lying directly.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoExactly. This kind of lying is like return-oriented programming attack. Technically you didn't lie to them, didn't inject them with malicious payload straight up - you just crafted your input to guarantee their mental process generates the malicious payload (the lie) for them.
- MattGaiser 6y agoYeah, but the harm is done to the uncurious and lazy so I have a lot less sympathy.
- inopinatus 6y agoCounterpoint: smart, interested, thoughtful people want to hear your ideas. Judging their judgment in advance, assuming they’ll all be swayed by brashness and unsupportable claims, is really to discount their intelligence. A failure to reach them, to inform your peers, to share and collaborate on ideas due to misplaced humility, to expect someone to entirely bear the responsibility of seeking us out, is almost equally arrogant as the brash salesman. You can compete with the dishonest. Just because many liars are sellers, doesn’t mean all marketing is lying.
- BurningFrog 6y agoIf that describes your current workplace, you really should get a new one!