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Latecomer? AWS is one of the oldest cloud hosting platforms out there and it's what, 6, 7 years old? The majority of the others are less than 5. This space is j

Latecomer? AWS is one of the oldest cloud hosting platforms out there and it's what, 6, 7 years old? The majority of the others are less than 5. This space is just heating up. That's not to say that HP won't fail spectacularly here, but to suggest that it's too late for a company with billions of dollars to make a move in the space seems a bit rash.

endlessvoid94 16y ago
I guess I just meant that it seems far too many companies are announcing "future plans". Building such a large product is certainly possible, but there are so many other companies far ahead of them (shipping, or nearly shipping) that they will have a lot of ground to cover in little time. EDIT: After some more thought, it also seems like while the definition of what a cloud service is isn't solidified yet, but it's definitely something HP doesn't have any experience building, which is also a huge hindrance. Contrast that with Amazon, Salesforce, VMware, and others, and it seems like the gap is just enormous. Certainly not insurmountable, though.
tomkarlo 16y ago
This is really not a nascent market any more when you have some of the largest Internet companies using cloud services heavily, like Netflix. The incumbents have huge scale advantages and accumulated experience. Also, they have a huge base of open source, freely available libraries out there to allow interaction with their cloud. (I feel like there is one for every AWS service in every commonly used programming language.) These are huge advantages that HP will have tremendous trouble overcoming if it just comes out with a "me-too" cloud service a year from now. If HP announced their cloud service TODAY, and you were choosing which company to put your web service with, would you really consider them over the existing services with a significant track record and third-party support?
- jmtulloss 16y ago
  For enterprise hosting, yes, I would. They are giants in the enterprise server industry, no reason for them not to be the same in the enterprise cloud industry (which has barely started to heat up).

endlessvoid94 16y ago

I guess I just meant that it seems far too many companies are announcing "future plans". Building such a large product is certainly possible, but there are so many other companies far ahead of them (shipping, or nearly shipping) that they will have a lot of ground to cover in little time. EDIT: After some more thought, it also seems like while the definition of what a cloud service is isn't solidified yet, but it's definitely something HP doesn't have any experience building, which is also a huge hindrance. Contrast that with Amazon, Salesforce, VMware, and others, and it seems like the gap is just enormous. Certainly not insurmountable, though.

tomkarlo 16y ago

This is really not a nascent market any more when you have some of the largest Internet companies using cloud services heavily, like Netflix. The incumbents have huge scale advantages and accumulated experience. Also, they have a huge base of open source, freely available libraries out there to allow interaction with their cloud. (I feel like there is one for every AWS service in every commonly used programming language.) These are huge advantages that HP will have tremendous trouble overcoming if it just comes out with a "me-too" cloud service a year from now. If HP announced their cloud service TODAY, and you were choosing which company to put your web service with, would you really consider them over the existing services with a significant track record and third-party support?

jmtulloss 16y ago
For enterprise hosting, yes, I would. They are giants in the enterprise server industry, no reason for them not to be the same in the enterprise cloud industry (which has barely started to heat up).