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Something I find fascinating in this discussion is how November affects things. If Trump is re-elected, any hope of repairing institutions is realistically lost
by nxc18 6y ago
Something I find fascinating in this discussion is how November affects things. If Trump is re-elected, any hope of repairing institutions is realistically lost. If he isn’t, there’s a real possibility of funny business, either contesting the result or refusing to leave office.
I know it sounds preposterous that a president would refuse to leave office, but it also seems preposterous that an impeached president wouldn’t step down, and he’s become accustomed to degrading norms and breaking the law with impunity.
US lifestyle is still very good, but for those of us looking at the trend it’s really concerning. I know I’m personally making decisions with the possibility of needing to leave in the future.
- PopePompus 6y ago>>> but it also seems preposterous that an impeached president wouldn’t step down Like Clinton? Like Andrew Johnson? No impeached US president has ever stepped down. Nixon resigned before he was impeached.
- nxc18 6y agoI'm thinking about how Trump is running for re-election after impeachment - afaict that's somewhat novel. Nixon as you mentioned resigned under threat of impeachment. I think maybe the bar for conviction in the Senate is too high in a way that is corrosive to presidential accountability. Both Trump and Clinton committed serious crimes without real consequence and it is disgraceful, regardless of politics. (note: I don't care about the sex, I care about the perjury and obstruction of justice)
- teknopaul 6y agoYou might not be able to go anywhere if US screws its COVID-19 response and the entire rest of the world does not.