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> Embedded? Too many proprietary toolchains that don't run on Linux. It's funny/surprising that you'd say that, given that Linux is the single most dominant OS

> Embedded? Too many proprietary toolchains that don't run on Linux. It's funny/surprising that you'd say that, given that Linux is the single most dominant OS in the embedded device space. What toolchains are you referring to? Here are some well known ones. https://www.yoctoproject.org/ https://www.yoctoproject.org/ https://www.ptxdist.org/ https://www.ptxdist.org/ https://openwrt.org/ https://openwrt.org/ > ML? nVidia [apparently I'm incorrect on this one]. Not only are you wrong about CUDA, but Google's custom built chip designed for ML runs soley on Linux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_processing_unit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_processing_unit ML almost exclusively runs on Linux. > and it is only supported on Windows Office also runs on macOS. You can also run Office in Linux using WINE. > Alright, this is a bit subjective, but is supported by the stats that show Linux Desktop still in a distant and well deserved third place. You list a few tasks that you seem to believe are "normal user" tasks, I submit to you that you drastically underestimate the things a normal desktop computer user does with their computer, since most of the tasks you listed are now things that people do on phones and tablets. It's really easy to say anything without providing any supportive evidence to substantiate your claims. Pray tell what tasks you are referring to that "normal users" partake that supposedly can't be done in desktop linux.

cartoonfoxes 6y ago
>It's funny/surprising that you'd say that, given that Linux is the single most dominant OS in the embedded device space. What toolchains are you referring to? Here are some well known ones. No, and no. The parent was referring to embedded development toolchains - compilers, IDEs, endless small utilities, debuggers, analyzers, etc. etc. Commercial tooling is almost all Windows-exclusive, even if it's using a smattering of open-source bits underneath. Also no. The "embedded device space" is v a s t. New projects for phones and similar hardware profiles might choose an Android or other flavor of embedded linux, for sure. Even within sexytech consumer products you're more likely targeting something like VxWorks or QNX as not. The physical world, the domain of embedded devices, is not smartphones and SaaS. Unless you're talking about a very specific product category it's laughable to call Linux dominant here.
- computerex 6y ago
  > The parent was referring to embedded development toolchains - compilers, IDEs, endless small utilities, debuggers, analyzers, etc. etc. I know what the parent was referring to. > Commercial tooling is almost all Windows-exclusive, even if it's using a smattering of open-source bits underneath. No it's not. Literally both of the embedded OS' you mentioned (VxWorks/QNX) support Linux as first class hosts. https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/software-solutions/embedded-software/industrial/qnx-momentics-tools-suite https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/software-solutions/embedded-so... https://www.windriver.com/support/site_configuration/docs/wr_site_cfg_linux_single_ws.pdf https://www.windriver.com/support/site_configuration/docs/wr... What Windows exclusive tooling are you talking about? And you are understimating the prevalence of Linux as the embedded OS for embedded devices.

cartoonfoxes 6y ago

>It's funny/surprising that you'd say that, given that Linux is the single most dominant OS in the embedded device space. What toolchains are you referring to? Here are some well known ones. No, and no. The parent was referring to embedded development toolchains - compilers, IDEs, endless small utilities, debuggers, analyzers, etc. etc. Commercial tooling is almost all Windows-exclusive, even if it's using a smattering of open-source bits underneath. Also no. The "embedded device space" is v a s t. New projects for phones and similar hardware profiles might choose an Android or other flavor of embedded linux, for sure. Even within sexytech consumer products you're more likely targeting something like VxWorks or QNX as not. The physical world, the domain of embedded devices, is not smartphones and SaaS. Unless you're talking about a very specific product category it's laughable to call Linux dominant here.

computerex 6y ago
> The parent was referring to embedded development toolchains - compilers, IDEs, endless small utilities, debuggers, analyzers, etc. etc. I know what the parent was referring to. > Commercial tooling is almost all Windows-exclusive, even if it's using a smattering of open-source bits underneath. No it's not. Literally both of the embedded OS' you mentioned (VxWorks/QNX) support Linux as first class hosts. https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/software-solutions/embedded-software/industrial/qnx-momentics-tools-suite https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/software-solutions/embedded-so... https://www.windriver.com/support/site_configuration/docs/wr_site_cfg_linux_single_ws.pdf https://www.windriver.com/support/site_configuration/docs/wr... What Windows exclusive tooling are you talking about? And you are understimating the prevalence of Linux as the embedded OS for embedded devices.