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These CPUs don't have PCIe 4. With Microsoft and Sony going all in with their consoles and high speed gen4 SSDs, I'm imagining there's going to be a lot of fas
by Jonnax 6y ago
These CPUs don't have PCIe 4.
With Microsoft and Sony going all in with their consoles and high speed gen4 SSDs, I'm imagining there's going to be a lot of faster drives on the market soon.
Unless it's an upgrade, I feel buying this CPU for a new build is a bad idea.
If I needed Intel I'd wait until their next generation at least.
- ebg13 6y ago> These CPUs don't have PCIe 4. I'm fine with PCIe 4 not hitting mainstream for a few more years. AMD X570 motherboards all integrate noisy and failure-prone active fans directly on the motherboard because the chips get so hot. The only one I know about that didn't was wildly expensive, basically all heatsink, and apparently no longer in production.
- r00fus 6y ago> The one I know about that doesn't is basically all heatsink. I'd love to see that one.
- Cu3PO42 6y agoThat would be the Gigabyte AORUS X570 XTREME: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-1x https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-1...
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- ben-schaaf 6y agoMotherboards used to have issues with the fan running when it didn't need to, but to my knowledge that's been fixed. Unless you're running massive amounts of data through the chipset it doesn't get hot and on most motherboards the fan should stay off.
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- ebg13 6y agoIf you're not running truly massive amounts of data through it, then PCIe 4.0 provides no benefit over PCIe 3.0 anyway.
- ben-schaaf 6y agoThe first PCIe slot, at least one of the nvme slots and a fair amount of the IO is connected directly to the CPU, they don't touch the chipset. There's plenty of benefit you can get by using just those. If you're really trying to get the most out of PCIe 4 then you're on the wrong platform anyway. Threadripper has way more IO going directly to the CPU and IIRC some Epyc motherboards have all IO going directly to the CPU.
- remmargorp64 6y agoI think the demand for PCI express 4.0 is going to be a lot higher than you realize. The new PS5 is going to have SSD speeds of over 5000 mb/s, and is coming out soon. PC gamers are going to be jealous until they are able to have speeds like that. After all, they are supposed to be the "PC Master Race". But the only SSD devices on the PC that can come close to the PS5's SSD speed are PCI express 4.0 devices.
- ebg13 6y ago> The new PS5 is going to have SSD speeds of over 5000 mb/s, and is coming out soon. That's not notably different than 3500 mb/s in any meaningful sense. Loading speed returns diminish very rapidly because you're looking at time, which is the inverse.
- driverdan 6y agoMy Asus X570 board's fan is not noisy. Even with the case open it doesn't stand out over my low speed, quiet case fans.
- ebg13 6y agoI noticed mine, and I'm definitely not alone. YMMV.
- fetus8 6y agoNot only are high speed PCIe4 SSDs starting to hit the market, but the newest Radeon 5600/5700 (XT and non-XT variants) GPUs support PCIe4 too. I imagine the next-gen Nvidia 3XXX GPUs will support it too. Given these new Intel CPUs require new mobos, it seems wild to me that Intel wouldn't include this. I agree, if you need an Intel CPU, it seems like waiting is your best bet right now.
- driverdan 6y agoI have a Corsair MP600 and it is fast. It benchmarked in the top 2% of all drive benchmarks. I wouldn't waste my money on an outdated CPU that doesn't support PCIe 4.