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No, because the royalty says something whether you have to pay, but what is meant is that it's not just shared source, you're actually allowed to use modify and

by tinco 6y ago

No, because the royalty says something whether you have to pay, but what is meant is that it's not just shared source, you're actually allowed to use modify and extend the source, under certain conditions.

cxr 6y ago
Folks here were previously arguing that when Defold is said to be "free", you're not saying it's capital-F Free, but instead that it's gratis. Now you're saying that the "free" part was referring to something like the FSF's version of free (albeit incompatible!) all along. Pick a position.
- tinco 6y ago
  No, you started to talk about things being gratis ("royalty-free"), and I'm pointing out that that's not what we're talking about. Or are you saying that because I'm stating that open is referring to the licensing, that implies the free refers to the gratis part? I guess that's correct, but that's not a point I raised earlier so I'm not inconsistent in my position.
  - cxr 6y ago
    > No, you started to talk about things being gratis No. That didn't begin with me. This entire discussion is filled with people defending your use of "free" to mean gratis. > I'm pointing out that that's not what we're talking about Okay, well now it's not clear what you're trying to communicate with the word "free". My point was that if you were using the word "free" to mean gratis, then the best thing would be to call it "royalty-free" instead. That's already the accepted nomenclature for creative/industry use, anyway, and it'd be the least confusing choice for this case in particular.
    - tinco 6y ago
      Since I'm not using the word free I'm not trying to communicate anything with it. I think maybe you're confusing me with someone else. You're in the wrong thread at the very least.
      - cxr 6y ago
        > "Open and free" sounds like a great suggestion, maybe we could lead with that? --tinco https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23238506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23238506
        tinco 6y ago
        Jeez, why did I forget I wrote that. You're totally right I apologize. In my defense it wasn't my idea to call it that, but it makes total sense that you'd start a discussion about it, I guess I was just confused.

by tinco 6y ago

cxr 6y ago

Folks here were previously arguing that when Defold is said to be "free", you're not saying it's capital-F Free, but instead that it's gratis. Now you're saying that the "free" part was referring to something like the FSF's version of free (albeit incompatible!) all along. Pick a position.

tinco 6y ago
No, you started to talk about things being gratis ("royalty-free"), and I'm pointing out that that's not what we're talking about. Or are you saying that because I'm stating that open is referring to the licensing, that implies the free refers to the gratis part? I guess that's correct, but that's not a point I raised earlier so I'm not inconsistent in my position.
- cxr 6y ago
  > No, you started to talk about things being gratis No. That didn't begin with me. This entire discussion is filled with people defending your use of "free" to mean gratis. > I'm pointing out that that's not what we're talking about Okay, well now it's not clear what you're trying to communicate with the word "free". My point was that if you were using the word "free" to mean gratis, then the best thing would be to call it "royalty-free" instead. That's already the accepted nomenclature for creative/industry use, anyway, and it'd be the least confusing choice for this case in particular.
  - tinco 6y ago
    Since I'm not using the word free I'm not trying to communicate anything with it. I think maybe you're confusing me with someone else. You're in the wrong thread at the very least.
    - cxr 6y ago
      > "Open and free" sounds like a great suggestion, maybe we could lead with that? --tinco https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23238506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23238506
      - tinco 6y ago
        Jeez, why did I forget I wrote that. You're totally right I apologize. In my defense it wasn't my idea to call it that, but it makes total sense that you'd start a discussion about it, I guess I was just confused.