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EEE, slowly the Linux desktop | os environment will be a thing of the past. something you won't run directly but interact via the windows api. and your only oth

by dzonga 6y ago

EEE, slowly the Linux desktop | os environment will be a thing of the past. something you won't run directly but interact via the windows api. and your only other choice will be mac os on arm. the biggest mistake the linux ecosystem did, was being so fragmented. if they had rallied around one desktop env, then lots of people would've migrated. I personally use a t490 on ubuntu and a 2013 macbook. but even I I'm attempted to try out WSL even though, I haven't used windows in over a decade

rvz 6y ago
> the biggest mistake the linux ecosystem did, was being so fragmented. I'm not sure how many times I have pointed this out here, but given the lack of a standardized desktop environment, that is the reason why most software companies are reluctant to support Linux users. But in contrast with 'Android' in the mobile industry has succeeded in doing this with Linux as its kernel. For a typical or even a complex desktop app, I can support 100% of all Windows users, 100% of the time. macOS is more or less the same here. Linux distros however has this fragmentation running so deep that to target the majority of users there, you must supporting 5+ distros they could be running. That's 5+ CIs to maintain and 5+ troubleshooting guides to update here. As even Linus Torvalds would say: > 'I still wish we were better at having a standardize desktop that goes across all the distributions… It’s not a kernel issue. It’s more of a personal annoyance how the fragmentation of the different vendors have, I think, held the desktop back a bit. ' This is a distro ecosystem problem, not a 'kernel' issue.
- _ph_ 6y ago
  While he is right that it is not a "kernel" issue in the strict sense, I have to say it would have been beneficial, if Linus had used his influence to push more for a better desktop environment.

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EEE, slowly the Linux desktop | os environment will be a thing of the past. something you won't run directly but interact via the windows api. and your only oth

by dzonga 6y ago

rvz 6y ago
> the biggest mistake the linux ecosystem did, was being so fragmented. I'm not sure how many times I have pointed this out here, but given the lack of a standardized desktop environment, that is the reason why most software companies are reluctant to support Linux users. But in contrast with 'Android' in the mobile industry has succeeded in doing this with Linux as its kernel. For a typical or even a complex desktop app, I can support 100% of all Windows users, 100% of the time. macOS is more or less the same here. Linux distros however has this fragmentation running so deep that to target the majority of users there, you must supporting 5+ distros they could be running. That's 5+ CIs to maintain and 5+ troubleshooting guides to update here. As even Linus Torvalds would say: > 'I still wish we were better at having a standardize desktop that goes across all the distributions… It’s not a kernel issue. It’s more of a personal annoyance how the fragmentation of the different vendors have, I think, held the desktop back a bit. ' This is a distro ecosystem problem, not a 'kernel' issue.
- _ph_ 6y ago
  While he is right that it is not a "kernel" issue in the strict sense, I have to say it would have been beneficial, if Linus had used his influence to push more for a better desktop environment.