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Ah yes, the old "never mind whether these leaks are true, look where they came from!" And of course god forbid we might exercise some skepticism of our own inte

Ah yes, the old "never mind whether these leaks are true, look where they came from!" And of course god forbid we might exercise some skepticism of our own intelligence community or Crowdstrike's conclusions on that front. I guess it's unfortunate that the RNC had better opsec than the DNC during 2016, I certainly would have been interested to know what they were sending back and forth during their primary. Whatever it was it probably would not have done much damage to Trump's campaign though. It's really amazing what an effective sheepdogging campaign Russiagate turned out to be. Sy Hersh reached some conclusions which align in some way with what Russia might want, therefore MK-ULTRA wasn't really a thing or the government wasn't involved in Frank Olson's death?

gwern 6y ago
> Ah yes, the old "never mind whether these leaks are true, look where they came from!" Particularly important a criticism given how selective leaks can paint a very different picture by leaving out all the responses and reasons the supposed whistleblowing never made it into the report, on top of the past track record in releasing outright forged documents. You're leaping to wild conclusions on the basis of far less than half of a conversation which may never have happened. > I guess it's unfortunate that the RNC had better opsec than the DNC during 2016 If you've read any profile of the muppets that ran the RNC or the Trump campaign, you know the RNC most definitely did not. > therefore MK-ULTRA wasn't really a thing or the government wasn't involved in Frank Olson's death? No one here said anything remotely like either of those. MK-ULTRA really was a thing. The government really was involved in Olson's death. By... administering LSD.