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> I commend you on your reading in English despite your having a full command of the language as yet, just keep your nose to the grindstone because education is
by microcolonel 6y ago
> I commend you on your reading in English despite your having a full command of the language as yet, just keep your nose to the grindstone because education is its own reward.
As an example, allow me to clarify some matters that might not be apparent to someone approaching English as a second language.
Thank you for contributing your ridicule of ESL people, and then using that ridicule, as though you had trouble reading what was written, to say something smug about the medium of somebody's argument.
> ...I was not actually judging the book by it's cover...
By the way, since we're in the mood for making fun of people over insignificant matters of syntax, the "its" in "judging a book by its cover" isn't supposed to have an apostrophe in it.
Now I could be charitable, and notice that if you wrote this on an Android phone, it could just be that GBoard was doing that thing where it inserts an apostrophe that you didn't type; but I'll adjust to your standards here and just take it as a sign that you're illiterate, which I guess explains why you stick to reading a book's blurb, and the cover more generally, rather than the content.
> not having a first hand familiarity with American culture is the little nuances of the blurb talking about child labor regulations etc
Dude, I'm American. It's not that your insinuations are too subtle, it's that they're unfounded, given the actual content of the book.
> Perhaps it is unintentional but there are political forces in the U.S that would like to get rid of these and other classes of laws that exist to restrict some things that businesses might otherwise like to do, like having children work in factories and selling food that has been made in unsanitary conditions, and so when I see marketing for something that seems to argue against these classes of law I worry that the book being marketed actually argues against them - I suppose you can see why that might be, right?
Still here impugning the guy's motives, and talking down to me as though you're the only one here who is aware of broad U.S. political themes, with zero knowledge of the actual content of the book, judging it by the blurb... the thing that goes on the cover; you know, judging a book by its cover.
> ...the people who subscribe to the theories that those classes of law are bad things seem to labor under some sort of ahistoricity and as that is a lack of knowledge it would be nice if the lack could be rectified somehow.
If you're so concerned about lack of knowledge, why don't you just read the book? It's about eight bucks on Kindle, it's not that long; maybe your nearest municipal library is open again and you can check it out there when you make your no-doubt-frequent trip. Replace your ignorance and smugness with information and.. well probably you'll keep the smugness, but at least you'll know what you're talking about. :+ )
> This is really why I wrote this overly long reply to correct some of what you wrote, as admirable as it otherwise might have been, because I would hope to keep you from being drawn into a confrontation with one of these combative types, who, as I noted before, seem intent on getting the smallest mistake or deliberate misreading as a tool to spitefully attack your character.
Well we wouldn't want to go attacking anyone's character; for example by insinuating that their primary political motivation is to exploit vulnerable children for hard labour and produce unsanitary food to save money in a manner similar to the fictional characters of a novel about a child born in a 19th century British workhouse. We especially wouldn't want to do that by comparing a piece of mid 20th century philosophical allegory written for a broad audience, a fictional novel; to the genuine account of an independent farmer attempting to sell products that his customers are informed about and excited to buy, in a regulatory environment which restricts activities that no well-adjusted person would consider exploitative, fringe, or immoral.
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago>Thank you for contributing your ridicule of ESL people, and then using that ridicule, as though you had trouble reading what was written, to say something smug about the medium of somebody's argument. Actually it was more ridicule of you; I realize you didn't like my tone but I didn't like yours as well, normally I wouldn't have replied but character is situational and I'm in a bad enough mood the last week to respond. I believe the phrase tit for tat may apply here. >insignificant matters of syntax I think use of it's instead of its is grammatical not syntactical, but I may be wrong on that. >a sign that you're illiterate I never said you were illiterate, I implied that you did not seem to know certain things and used the conceit that you were a non-native speaker of the language and that this was the cause of you not knowing these things. I could have also attacked your moral character, as you started in with me on. >judging it by the blurb... the thing that goes on the cover; you know, judging a book by its cover. As I understand blurb it means "a short description of a book, film, or other product written for promotional purposes." I just saw the text on the website you linked to describing the book, I was unaware the same text was on the cover - if it is - but I guess if the book tells me it is a book about vampires I will judge the book to be about vampires until I open it up and read it is about the psychology of people who actually believe vampires exist. Blurbs exist to tell you what a book is about, you seem to think that this blurb has done a bad job doing that for me and it is somehow my fault for pointing it out. Why don't you do just send an email to them and tell them "hey fix your blurb" since you have the knowledge of what the book is actually about, and you know that I took it badly, and you evidently are aware of what the trends are in American Politics that people might assume those phrases were about. >If you're so concerned about lack of knowledge, why don't you just read the book? It's about eight bucks on Kindle, Yeah, despite you being the best ever possible salesperson for the book, what with your attacking me for pointing out a bit of questionable marketing, I'm not paying to read a book that seems to be marketed to people I am ideologically opposed to, especially when I point out the dodgy marketing somebody on HN pops up and starts lecturing me about the US PATRIOT ACT (sic), I mean come on, those were some pretty dog-whistely terms there, and you could have gone with something like "well I understand your concern but it's really not like that, you should give it a try because it shows how even the best of intentions can get you bogged down with bureaucracy" but instead it's all you're stupid and bad and then finally it's buy the book it will make you a better person? >well probably you'll keep the smugness you really seem to very concerned about smugness, in your first post you went into "and with even more smug self-importance" and now again with the smugness - I don't really know what more to say about it other than when I read your first attack based on my pointing out problems in the blurb, and your second attack here based on my retaliation, and your about which has the following "In the current harsh/repressive political climate, you can be accosted for publicly engaging a wrongthinker." for communicating with you too much I have to say... I just don't think I'm that smug.