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I’m having a hard time making sense of this. He certainly isn’t without bias (no one is), but he has brought a wide variety of people on the show (Bernie Sander

by gen3 6y ago

I’m having a hard time making sense of this. He certainly isn’t without bias (no one is), but he has brought a wide variety of people on the show (Bernie Sanders, Andrew Yang, Ben Shapiro). I don’t follow him heavily, but from the interviews I’ve seen, he just seems to try to get the guest to talk.

notaharvardmba 6y ago
Yeah, I think Joe would be the first to say (and I believe he has said exactly this many times) "I'm a dumbass comedian, don't listen to me as an authority for any changes you make to your life, I'm stupid and this is just entertainment." I personally like how not only does he say stupid shit, but then the next day he says the opposite and talks about how he learned something new, they never speculate when they can just look something up on Google, etc. I think it has a lot of live integrity and fact-checking. Yes, sometimes they have figures on which are complete assholes. But they also have fringe people who are very smart who you would never hear from otherwise who have offered a huge range of insightful new theories. You don't listen to JRE to get "news", you listen to stimulate your mind in different directions, and get motivated to do something yourself. I don't want to be like Joe at all, but there is something motivating about how unapologetic he is about basically just being a dumbass comedian with a big platform and he's literally not doing anything of real value with it. It's art. I think it's one of the best things in media today.
mike_d 6y ago
> he has brought a wide variety of people on the show That is exactly the problem. You can't be "fair" and balance out Neil deGrasse Tyson by giving equal time to a flat earther. I have no issue with Alex Jones being given a platform in a forum such as the Howard Stern show, which is intentionally not taken seriously. But Joe Rogan has stepped away from his comedy roots and is talking authoritatively about health, physical fitness, wellness, etc. and in the same breath peddling supplements from Onnit without disclosing he has a financial interest in the company.
- gen3 6y ago
  I would say it’s up to the viewer to decide what to take seriously. I wouldn’t listen to the flat earther for geographic information, but to better understand why they think that way. By better understanding their thought process, you have a better chance of explaining to them the holes in their theories. I personally don’t know why someone would be a flat earther, and am curious to know why. You could look at it another way. A flat earther might watch his buddies episode, enjoy the Joe Rogan format, then watch the recommended Neil deGrasse Tyson episode. This would expose them to concepts that can help them see the error of their way. I think it boils down to people thinking for themselves and deciding which episodes are for pondering vs which are for entertainment. Plus, who gets to decide what’s too “out there” for the show. A lot of the information dropped by Snowden was considered tin foil hat before the leak.

by gen3 6y ago

notaharvardmba 6y ago

Yeah, I think Joe would be the first to say (and I believe he has said exactly this many times) "I'm a dumbass comedian, don't listen to me as an authority for any changes you make to your life, I'm stupid and this is just entertainment." I personally like how not only does he say stupid shit, but then the next day he says the opposite and talks about how he learned something new, they never speculate when they can just look something up on Google, etc. I think it has a lot of live integrity and fact-checking. Yes, sometimes they have figures on which are complete assholes. But they also have fringe people who are very smart who you would never hear from otherwise who have offered a huge range of insightful new theories. You don't listen to JRE to get "news", you listen to stimulate your mind in different directions, and get motivated to do something yourself. I don't want to be like Joe at all, but there is something motivating about how unapologetic he is about basically just being a dumbass comedian with a big platform and he's literally not doing anything of real value with it. It's art. I think it's one of the best things in media today.

mike_d 6y ago

> he has brought a wide variety of people on the show That is exactly the problem. You can't be "fair" and balance out Neil deGrasse Tyson by giving equal time to a flat earther. I have no issue with Alex Jones being given a platform in a forum such as the Howard Stern show, which is intentionally not taken seriously. But Joe Rogan has stepped away from his comedy roots and is talking authoritatively about health, physical fitness, wellness, etc. and in the same breath peddling supplements from Onnit without disclosing he has a financial interest in the company.

gen3 6y ago
I would say it’s up to the viewer to decide what to take seriously. I wouldn’t listen to the flat earther for geographic information, but to better understand why they think that way. By better understanding their thought process, you have a better chance of explaining to them the holes in their theories. I personally don’t know why someone would be a flat earther, and am curious to know why. You could look at it another way. A flat earther might watch his buddies episode, enjoy the Joe Rogan format, then watch the recommended Neil deGrasse Tyson episode. This would expose them to concepts that can help them see the error of their way. I think it boils down to people thinking for themselves and deciding which episodes are for pondering vs which are for entertainment. Plus, who gets to decide what’s too “out there” for the show. A lot of the information dropped by Snowden was considered tin foil hat before the leak.