6 ms·

This makes me incredibly sad: not that we are losing Rogan's show, but that Adtech is finally absorbing the last type of media that was truly Free.

by css 6y ago

Exmoor 6y ago
I agree, the idea of my podcasts becoming infected with non-stop ads keeps me up at night. But you know what doesn't keep me up all night? My Eliza mattress. You see the folks at Eliza designed a mattress that allows you to create your own website in minutes. Eliza's network of doctors can review your mattress's website and prescribe the best medication to regrow it's natural hair. Don't forget to use the promo-code HACKER at checkout for 3.14% off and free shipping!
- blueberry_47 6y ago
  Let me finish my Best Fiends game first. It's friends without the r.
  - vsdvvsderer 6y ago
    Quick pause, I just wanted to thank today's video sponsor: SponsorTech! Do you ever get tired of searching for a sponsor for your video? Let SponsorTech deliver the revenue you need to buy ramen noodles, all while connecting your customers with ads that are roughly as annoying as this one. Offer-code GETREKT for 20% off in the description below.
sida 6y ago
Adtech would actually make it free. Arguably this is more like cable / Netflix than adtech
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- css 6y ago
  Now my podcast player and by extension adtech markets know what I listen to, when I listen to it, how long I listen, when I stop, when I fast forward/skip, etc., with no way to opt out. This is not freedom.
- MikusR 6y ago
  You have to pay for cable / Netflix. Spotify is free (with ads).
  - fastball 6y ago
    I pay for Spotify and don't get ads, so its not really adtech for me.
    - Slippery_John 6y ago
      Paying for Spotify does not imply that they cease spying on you, only that they aren't using that information to serve you ads on their platform.
PhoenixReborn 6y ago
Rogan had ads on his podcast even before this partnership, and has had them for a long time now. I don't think that adtech is going away as long as there is a cost for the creator to make the content. Rogan (and other podcasters) have to pay for their studios somehow, and as long as the ads remain skippable (ex. at the beginning of the show like Joe has) I'm OK with it.
- css 6y ago
  I don't care about ads, I care about walled gardens. Especially walled gardens that are designed to spy on you. Right now there are basically no metrics adtech companies have for how listeners behave, and this changes that.
  - bootlooped 6y ago
    Spotify doesn't add ads to music if you pay for it. I don't know about podcasts. If it was a viable business strategy for them to be paid-only, I think they would have done it, I'm pretty sure they make much more profit on paying customers than free ad-supported ones.
    - css 6y ago
      Again, ads are not the issue. The freedom to listen without being spied on is.
      - TylerE 6y ago
        You really think your http requests aren't being "spied on"? Especially since virtually every podcast is served via a CDN.
        type0 6y ago
        You really think your phone conversations aren't being "spied on"? Especially since virtually every phonecall is set up via SS7.
fearingreprisal 6y ago
I'm not sure why you think Youtube is "truly free". They run an enormous amount of advertising. Rogan's show has always been ad supported. Possibly you use an ad-blocker, like I do, and don't see them.
- fastball 6y ago
  The Joe Rogan Experience is currently available on many different platforms, not just YouTube. This, however, is an exclusive deal with Spotify, so you will only be able to get it from Spotify going forward. Hence less free.
- glenstein 6y ago
  It's not YouTube, but podcasting over rss feeds as a means of distribution that is 'free' in the pertinent sense.

This makes me incredibly sad: not that we are losing Rogan's show, but that Adtech is finally absorbing the last type of media that was truly Free.

by css 6y ago

This makes me incredibly sad: not that we are losing Rogan's show, but that Adtech is finally absorbing the last type of media that was truly Free.

Exmoor 6y ago

I agree, the idea of my podcasts becoming infected with non-stop ads keeps me up at night. But you know what doesn't keep me up all night? My Eliza mattress. You see the folks at Eliza designed a mattress that allows you to create your own website in minutes. Eliza's network of doctors can review your mattress's website and prescribe the best medication to regrow it's natural hair. Don't forget to use the promo-code HACKER at checkout for 3.14% off and free shipping!

blueberry_47 6y ago
Let me finish my Best Fiends game first. It's friends without the r.
- vsdvvsderer 6y ago
  Quick pause, I just wanted to thank today's video sponsor: SponsorTech! Do you ever get tired of searching for a sponsor for your video? Let SponsorTech deliver the revenue you need to buy ramen noodles, all while connecting your customers with ads that are roughly as annoying as this one. Offer-code GETREKT for 20% off in the description below.

sida 6y ago

Adtech would actually make it free. Arguably this is more like cable / Netflix than adtech

deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
css 6y ago
Now my podcast player and by extension adtech markets know what I listen to, when I listen to it, how long I listen, when I stop, when I fast forward/skip, etc., with no way to opt out. This is not freedom.
MikusR 6y ago
You have to pay for cable / Netflix. Spotify is free (with ads).
- fastball 6y ago
  I pay for Spotify and don't get ads, so its not really adtech for me.
  - Slippery_John 6y ago
    Paying for Spotify does not imply that they cease spying on you, only that they aren't using that information to serve you ads on their platform.

PhoenixReborn 6y ago

Rogan had ads on his podcast even before this partnership, and has had them for a long time now. I don't think that adtech is going away as long as there is a cost for the creator to make the content. Rogan (and other podcasters) have to pay for their studios somehow, and as long as the ads remain skippable (ex. at the beginning of the show like Joe has) I'm OK with it.

css 6y ago
I don't care about ads, I care about walled gardens. Especially walled gardens that are designed to spy on you. Right now there are basically no metrics adtech companies have for how listeners behave, and this changes that.
- bootlooped 6y ago
  Spotify doesn't add ads to music if you pay for it. I don't know about podcasts. If it was a viable business strategy for them to be paid-only, I think they would have done it, I'm pretty sure they make much more profit on paying customers than free ad-supported ones.
  - css 6y ago
    Again, ads are not the issue. The freedom to listen without being spied on is.
    - TylerE 6y ago
      You really think your http requests aren't being "spied on"? Especially since virtually every podcast is served via a CDN.
      - type0 6y ago
        You really think your phone conversations aren't being "spied on"? Especially since virtually every phonecall is set up via SS7.

fearingreprisal 6y ago

I'm not sure why you think Youtube is "truly free". They run an enormous amount of advertising. Rogan's show has always been ad supported. Possibly you use an ad-blocker, like I do, and don't see them.

fastball 6y ago
The Joe Rogan Experience is currently available on many different platforms, not just YouTube. This, however, is an exclusive deal with Spotify, so you will only be able to get it from Spotify going forward. Hence less free.
glenstein 6y ago
It's not YouTube, but podcasting over rss feeds as a means of distribution that is 'free' in the pertinent sense.