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this is the only thing that stops me from using Notion, too. just downloaded it and it looks like it would change my life... except i don't own the data. right

by _fzslm 6y ago

this is the only thing that stops me from using Notion, too. just downloaded it and it looks like it would change my life... except i don't own the data. right now i'm trying out Outline [1] which has an option for self hosting. [1] https://github.com/outline/outline https://github.com/outline/outline

tommoor 6y ago
Thanks for the mention! Outline also has an RPC-style API for the entire project btw, the documentation needs a little work but it's there: https://getoutline.com/developers https://getoutline.com/developers
vz8 6y ago
Would really appreciate your thoughts on this, if you have any initial feedback. We're considering the self-hosted option too - that's the big draw.
- _fzslm 6y ago
  i've only been using it for a little bit, but here goes: * unlike Notion, it's one workspace per instance. makes sense, but worth noting as using workspaces as for organisational purposes won't work so well here. * for personal instances, Slack doesn't make all that much sense. i see a PR for LDAP support on GitHub, so i will play around with that * supports embeds just like Notion - paste the link and it just works. supports codepen, figma, gsuite, youtube and others. this was the feature that made me take notice of notion, so it's good to see it here. * even better, the embed API seems pretty easily extensible, so the sky's the limit here. i can't wait to make some sweet dashboards based on entirely self-hosted data! * no mobile app is a bit of a bummer, but the PWA experience works pretty well. considering i'll be authoring predominantly on desktop and only reading on iPhone, this isn't so much of a big deal for my use case * no auto-save :( * you can share a read-only, fully public link of any page you want. pretty damn cool. all in all i'm pretty impressed. it seems pretty robust! i mean, it's definitely not as full-fat as Notion, but perhaps that's a good thing - and OSS means it's easily extensible for whatever you need to use it for. who knows which way my opinion will change after some more extensive use, but this definitely shows promise.
abuehrle 6y ago
I just checked out Outline. It seems strange that the landing page example is lifted straight from Stripe's docs[1] with "Stripe" replaced by "Acme". [1] https://stripe.com/docs/webhooks#what-are-webhooks https://stripe.com/docs/webhooks#what-are-webhooks
- johnghanks 6y ago
  who cares?
- tommoor 6y ago
  Good spot! I guess that was a little cheeky in hindsight…
- ezekg 6y ago
  I can tell you that a large majority of in-production API docs use Stripe's docs as a template. I did it for my company, and I've seen a ton of other API services do it. Stripe leads in API docs, so it's easier to not reinvent the wheel and just do what works. I know this instance isn't even for a production product, but meh.
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jonpurdy 6y ago
I just checked outline out and went to try the hosted version, but looks like they don't let me sign up with my own email. I generate emails for each service I use, and am much too lazy to generate a Slack account just to use it to sign into this. I suppose I could spin up an instance and self-host, but don't want to dedicate 30 mins to just setting this up to test it out.

by _fzslm 6y ago

tommoor 6y ago

Thanks for the mention! Outline also has an RPC-style API for the entire project btw, the documentation needs a little work but it's there: https://getoutline.com/developers https://getoutline.com/developers

vz8 6y ago

Would really appreciate your thoughts on this, if you have any initial feedback. We're considering the self-hosted option too - that's the big draw.

_fzslm 6y ago
i've only been using it for a little bit, but here goes: * unlike Notion, it's one workspace per instance. makes sense, but worth noting as using workspaces as for organisational purposes won't work so well here. * for personal instances, Slack doesn't make all that much sense. i see a PR for LDAP support on GitHub, so i will play around with that * supports embeds just like Notion - paste the link and it just works. supports codepen, figma, gsuite, youtube and others. this was the feature that made me take notice of notion, so it's good to see it here. * even better, the embed API seems pretty easily extensible, so the sky's the limit here. i can't wait to make some sweet dashboards based on entirely self-hosted data! * no mobile app is a bit of a bummer, but the PWA experience works pretty well. considering i'll be authoring predominantly on desktop and only reading on iPhone, this isn't so much of a big deal for my use case * no auto-save :( * you can share a read-only, fully public link of any page you want. pretty damn cool. all in all i'm pretty impressed. it seems pretty robust! i mean, it's definitely not as full-fat as Notion, but perhaps that's a good thing - and OSS means it's easily extensible for whatever you need to use it for. who knows which way my opinion will change after some more extensive use, but this definitely shows promise.

abuehrle 6y ago

I just checked out Outline. It seems strange that the landing page example is lifted straight from Stripe's docs[1] with "Stripe" replaced by "Acme". [1] https://stripe.com/docs/webhooks#what-are-webhooks https://stripe.com/docs/webhooks#what-are-webhooks

johnghanks 6y ago
who cares?
tommoor 6y ago
Good spot! I guess that was a little cheeky in hindsight…
ezekg 6y ago
I can tell you that a large majority of in-production API docs use Stripe's docs as a template. I did it for my company, and I've seen a ton of other API services do it. Stripe leads in API docs, so it's easier to not reinvent the wheel and just do what works. I know this instance isn't even for a production product, but meh.

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jonpurdy 6y ago

I just checked outline out and went to try the hosted version, but looks like they don't let me sign up with my own email. I generate emails for each service I use, and am much too lazy to generate a Slack account just to use it to sign into this. I suppose I could spin up an instance and self-host, but don't want to dedicate 30 mins to just setting this up to test it out.